[This mail I have sent to opensuse-factory@, I'm posting it also here...] Hi all, Long story short: Alternative Milestone 2 installation images with Ruby YaST created by the YCP Killer project are available here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/YaST:/Head:/ruby/images/iso/openSU... (~3.8GB) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/YaST:/Head:/ruby/images/iso/openSU... (~860MB, only package subset, select "Minimal X" or "Textmode" software selection) And here is the full story: Introduction ------------ You might already know the YCP Killer project [1] by which we want to replace our specific YCP language used in YaST by Ruby. The transition to Ruby is automated, we created a translator from YCP to Ruby and improved the core YaST so it can run Ruby modules. Our goal is to switch all our YaST modules from YCP to Ruby in openSUSE-13.1. The most critical part of YaST is the installer which cannot be easily updated on already released media. Therefore we need broader testing before this switch to avoid installation failures on large scale. That's why we created alternative ISO images for installing openSUSE 13.1 Milestone 2 with YaST converted to Ruby. Downloads --------- We have two installation images with converted YaST installer, "fullDVD" which is basically the Milestone 2 DVD ISO and "miniDVD" which contains just a subset of packages needed for "Minimal X" installation (or "Minimal Text Mode", the other software selections will fail because of missing packages). "fullDVD" is recommened, but if your download speed is slow or you have a download limit then you can try the "miniDVD". (Note: we built the ISOs _after_ the official M2 images so there might be some small changes in package versions, the images are not 100% compatible with M2, but they are very close. So rather use the official M2 release for testing and reporting non-YaST issues.) The ISOs are available here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/YaST:/Head:/ruby/images/iso/openSU... (~3.8GB) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/YaST:/Head:/ruby/images/iso/openSU... (~860MB) (We built only x86_64 images to save OBS resources, sorry, no other architectures.) Installation ------------ You need to manually add "insecure=1" boot option because the ISOs are not signed by the official openSUSE GPG key. You will also need to accept the OBS YaST:Head:ruby GPG key when adding the installation repository during installation. Alternatively to full installation you can switch to YaST Ruby later after installing the official Milestone 2. As root run this: # add YaST:Head:ruby zypper ar -f http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/YaST:/Head:/ruby/openSUSE_Factory/ YaST:Head:ruby # replace all YaST packages, use distribution upgrade to allow vendor change zypper dup --from YaST:Head:ruby Then you can test Ruby YaST in installed system, use it the same way as the classic YCP YaST. Testing ------- We already did some minimal testing to ensure the image installs, but we need more intensive testing. So use the images as usual openSUSE installation images, try configuring various system properties, try different hardware/software setups... We only changed the YaST implementation language, so the look&feel of YaST is (or actually must be) the same as in the classic YCP YaST. The automatic translation to Ruby also means that a bug in YCP YaST will be also present in Ruby YaST (bug compatibility). Known bugs ----------- - There is a segfault printed at the console at the end of the first installation stage just before reboot, but it happens at the very end when YaST is exiting and should be harmless. - When using non-English language some texts are not translated (button labels, messages...). - Installation from images is not supported (not available on the medium), the installation proposal will just inform about this. - The ncurses control center in installed system starts for very long time (~2 minutes) For other bugs see the GitHub link in the next section. Bug/Success Reporting ---------------------- We are focused on bugs in YCP to Ruby translation, if you find a bug which is also present in YCP YaST in the official M2 then use the usual bug reporting via bugzilla. If you are unsure you can try the same in the official M2 or you can report it anyway, we will check it. (Of course, it would be nice if you could do that so we are focused on real bug fixing.) Also report slowdowns or other different behavior not observed in original YCP YaST. For reporting bugs use GitHub issues (GitHub account needed): https://github.com/yast/ycp-killer/issues It would be also great to get some positive feedback to know how many people tested our installer and know what has been already tested and works. Just send a short summary what did you test (which module(s), what did you configure...). Feedback -------- If you have any questions or you want to report a success just reply here or connect to #yast freenode IRC channel. Have a lot of fun! Ladislav [1] https://github.com/yast/ycp-killer -- Ladislav Slezák Appliance department / YaST Developer Lihovarská 1060/12 190 00 Prague 9 / Czech Republic tel: +420 284 028 960 lslezak@suse.com SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: yast-devel+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: yast-devel+owner@opensuse.org