Mailinglist Archive: yast-devel (95 mails)

[josef reidinger <jreidinger@xxxxxxx>]

Martin Vidner napsal(a):
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:19:36PM +0200, josef reidinger wrote:
> > Martin Vidner napsal(a):
> > > I think that it is a futile attempt to overcome the initial problem
> > > of having too many permissions to deal with.
> > > How about removing them instead? That means not having the complete
> > > "API" of YaST accessible via DBus, but it is not a real API anyway.
> > > Instead, we should build the API to fit the permissions.
> > What about use two tool over permissions? So we provide via dbus atomic
> > permission to change one enclosed atribute and then have in webyast
> > client for changing permission which provide agregate permissions and
> > can change set of atomic permissions like Change http server which
> > ensure that all atomic permission needed for http server is provided (of
> > course provide info what atomic permission it is). I think that for
> > admins is more important what exactly can user change (single values)
> > then high level abstraction permission which can change more then admin
> > want.
>
>
> So you propose two sets of permissions, atomic and aggregate. That
> looks the same as what Schubi does with the tree. What is different?
>
> Anyway, as I said on Friday, it is a frequent mistake of Linux developers
> not to care about usability and flood the users with options which
> the users do not care about.
>
> For example, I see
>     if 
> permission_check("org.opensuse.yast.modules.yapi.language.getlanguages")
>       @language.fill_available
>     else
>       logger.info "yast2 language list no permissions"
>     end
>     if 
> permission_check("org.opensuse.yast.modules.yapi.language.getcurrentlanguage")
>
> Why on Earth can someone see that the box talks Czech but not that
> German and Slovak are available too? Or the reverse? Please don't
> make the admins ridicule us because of that. Make the permissions
> simple.

It is because of efficiency. I need somehow get constant list of
supported languages. But current language can change during session and
I think that it is vasting of resources to get during each index call
whole supported list. So this getlanguages permission is added only due
to dbus yast interface. (getLanguages is the biggest performance problem
in current language dbus interface as it send quite big data (same
problem is in timezone description), for me is unacceptable call on each
index call dbus call that take more then second).
Josef
Josef
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