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RE: [radeonhd] RS690 full-HD performance
- From: "Bridgman, John" <John.Bridgman@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:54:58 -0400
- Message-id: <898503EB1E15BA4F944D1BE69D55AAC8025EF86E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
))Aha. But, if I understand it currectly, there _is_ tanglible stuff for hd
playback (h.264) which the rs690 could help with, which has not yet been
implemented? If so, are there plans to implement those parts?
I don't think there is any other decode acceleration hardware in RS690 other
than the MPEG-2 IDCT engine.
As Alex and others have mentioned, shaders can definitely be used for MC and
post-filtering; it's less clear how much of a benefit you get from using them
further up the pipe eg IQ and IDCT.
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From: Anders Eriksson [mailto:aeriksson@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:50 AM
To: Alex Deucher
Cc: Rafał Miłecki; Anders Eriksson; Matthias Hopf; Christiaan van Dijk;
Christian König; radeonhd@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [radeonhd] RS690 full-HD performance
alexdeucher@xxxxxxxxx said:
I recall reading something on this somehwere (phoronix?). it was something
along the lines of mc for mpeg2 (ie DVD content) could (is?) easily done in
CPUs these days so there's no need to spend the manhours on using HW
acceleration for it. Is that so?
Aha. But, if I understand it currectly, there _is_ tanglible stuff for hd
playback (h.264) which the rs690 could help with, which has not yet been
implemented? If so, are there plans to implement those parts?
-Anders
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playback (h.264) which the rs690 could help with, which has not yet been
implemented? If so, are there plans to implement those parts?
I don't think there is any other decode acceleration hardware in RS690 other
than the MPEG-2 IDCT engine.
As Alex and others have mentioned, shaders can definitely be used for MC and
post-filtering; it's less clear how much of a benefit you get from using them
further up the pipe eg IQ and IDCT.
-----Original Message-----
From: Anders Eriksson [mailto:aeriksson@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:50 AM
To: Alex Deucher
Cc: Rafał Miłecki; Anders Eriksson; Matthias Hopf; Christiaan van Dijk;
Christian König; radeonhd@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [radeonhd] RS690 full-HD performance
alexdeucher@xxxxxxxxx said:
There are several stages in the decode part of the pipeline. idct and
mc are the main ones. On r1xx-r5xx (including rs6xx), we do the mc
part for the decode using the 3D engine (shaders on r3xx+, special
instructions on r1xx-r2xx). R6xx and r7xx chips have a special
dedicated UVD block for video decode. We plan to review that block to
see if we can release any of it, but no promises. Regardless, you could do
mc on r6xx/r7xx using shaders as well.
For MPEG1/2 you could implement an XvMC driver and implement mc using
shaders.
I recall reading something on this somehwere (phoronix?). it was something
along the lines of mc for mpeg2 (ie DVD content) could (is?) easily done in
CPUs these days so there's no need to spend the manhours on using HW
acceleration for it. Is that so?
I believe intel does this. The problem is XvMC doesn't support newer
formats like H.264 or whatever.
Aha. But, if I understand it currectly, there _is_ tanglible stuff for hd
playback (h.264) which the rs690 could help with, which has not yet been
implemented? If so, are there plans to implement those parts?
-Anders
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