I've been trying to get X up for several weeks now and I thought it was finally time to message you. I dont have access to xorg.conf or my xorg.0.log right now, and you dont allow att. so I'll get that to you soon if this is not enough, here is what I am getting: (EE) RADEONHD(0) : rhdAtomLvdsDDC: unkown record type: 4e (4e changes randomly) (EE) RADEONHD(0) : Output PANEL enabled but has no modes (EE) RADEONHD(0) : RandR: No valid modes. Disabled. (EE) RADEONHD(0) : rhdAtomLVdsDDC: unkown record type 4e (4e changes randomly) (EE) RADEONHD(0): No valid modes found (EE) Screens found, but... Let me know what you can do, and what I need to do. Thanks much. Its a sony VAIO FW series notebook, M82 card (ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470) on the Intel PM45. Kurt