Hi All,
On 6 September 2016 at 20:51, listreader
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 12:48:03 +0200 (CEST) Roger Price
wrote: I am trying to install 42.2 Beta using the NET install CD, but when I get to "Desktop Selection", I cannot find LXDE as included in previous releases. Is openSUSE abandoning LXDE?
I'm LXDE on 42.1 and I'd hate to think this was intentional.
Since no one who actually knows the official answer to "Is openSUSE abandoning LXDE?" has replied yet (hello, calling Richard Brown), then maybe filing a bug is the way to go.
Reporting as ordered! The short answer is "openSUSE is not abandoning LXDE, we will do all we can to take care of our existing LXDE users" But that is only half of the story The reality is that LXDE is effectively in a state of abandonment from it's upstream. No development is happening on it any more. No development ever will. Our own openSUSE LXDE maintainer has not been seen or heard of for in 6 years, but it's not like they've had any work to do lately anyway, so maybe they're just lurking :) And so, having it offered in the installer is frankly a stupid idea - we want to take care of our existing LXDE users, we want to ensure Leap 42.x upgrades are as smooth as possible for them, but encouraging new Leap installs to LXDE would be irresponsible for us given the support status of the software. LXQt is the declared future of LXDE but there are lots of unanswered questions Chief among them "does it work?", quickly followed by "does it work as a drop in replacement for LXDE users?" My personal research suggests the latter is normally an answer of 'It wasn't working but it's starting to now', the former is normally answered by "no, it's a different DE" We do have LXQt in both Leap and Tumbleweed, but given it's relative immaturity and almost certainly lacking feature set, I think it's the right thing to not include it on the installer at this time My advice to the ambitious among you would be to do what you can to install and test LXQt, get it polished up, get it as fully functional as we expect from a top tier openSUSE DE (easy to install, easy to co-exist, easy to patch, easy for contributors to maintain, all that stuff), and then hopefully by the time we're developing Leap 43.0 we can discuss whether or not it makes sense to put LXQt back in the installer as a clear desktop choice rather than just as a pattern in the software tooling. I realise we're in a bit of an awkward situation, we're doing the best we can for current users on LXDE but with the state of LXDE being abandoned and LXQt being a non-trivial alternative to move to, I don't know how we could do a better job for everyone :-/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org