https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ Slightly more than midway down is a section "Diagnosing Shutdown Problems" The gist is "poweroff" does a graceful systemd shutdown, where "poweroff -f" pretty much hands off a message to the kernel to sync and poweroff. Therefore if poweroff -f does not work, it's a kernel problem. If it does work, then there's something holding things up indefinitely, which could be a systemd bug but it depends on what's holding things up -since some things have indefinite timeout. I'm not sure how poweroff -f differs from sysrq+s, sysrq+b. I suppose you could give those two sysrq's a shot if poweroff -f doesn't work, but the documentation says if poweroff -f doesn't work it's a kernel bug. Chris Murphy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org