starttde won't even start due to http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2557 so I run /opt/trinity/bin/starttde from the xterm that startx puts on the display, in which the following appears (in 13.1) (among much else which I cannot figure out how to copy and paste into any file): [starttde] TDE_SESSION_UID: 0 [tdeinit] Shutting down running client. ... [FIXME] UNCLASSIFIED DEVICE name: gpiochip206 type: (null) subsystem: gpio drive r: gpio_ich [Node Path: (null) [Syspath: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1F.0/gpio_ich/gpio/gpiochip206] [8086:2640] ... [artsd] There are already artsd objects registered, looking if they are active... [artsd] Error: Can't add object reference (probably artsd is already running). If you are sure it is not already running, remove the relevant files... ... konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /opt/trinity/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop W: [pulseaudio] main.c: This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified). ... What program needs --system? How do I configure that way? How do I get sound in these installations? Same releases typically make sound automagically on other hardware, so why this machine's trouble is inexplicable, especially as it works as expected with Jessie (though not in Fedora). Running alsaconf unloads all kernel snd modules, then reports cannot find any sound device. Installation/machine data: # aplay -l **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH6] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: ICH6 [Intel ICH6], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 [Intel ICH6 - IEC958] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 # lspci | grep Audio 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) # lsmod | grep snd snd_intel8x0 33097 4 snd_ac97_codec 113887 1 snd_intel8x0 ac97_bus 12671 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm 97617 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec snd_timer 24319 1 snd_pcm snd 70630 12 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 14600 1 snd snd_page_alloc 14231 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm # hwinfo --sound 22: PCI 1e.2: 0401 Multimedia audio controller [Created at pci.319] Unique ID: r0Vg.GIatCp3PtAA SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1e.2 SysFS BusID: 0000:00:1e.2 Hardware Class: sound Model: "Dell Optiplex GX280" Vendor: pci 0x8086 "Intel Corporation" Device: pci 0x266e "82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller" SubVendor: pci 0x1028 "Dell" SubDevice: pci 0x0179 "Optiplex GX280" Revision: 0x03 Driver: "snd_intel8x0" Driver Modules: "snd_intel8x0" I/O Ports: 0xec00-0xecff (rw) I/O Ports: 0xe8c0-0xe8ff (rw) Memory Range: 0xdfebfe00-0xdfebffff (rw,non-prefetchable) Memory Range: 0xdfebfd00-0xdfebfdff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 23 (4547 events) Module Alias: "pci:v00008086d0000266Esv00001028sd00000179bc04sc01i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_intel8x0 is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_intel8x0" Config Status: cfg=yes, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown # systemctl list-unit-files | egrep 'snd|alsa|pulse|sound' alsa-restore.service static alsa-state.service static alsa-store.service static alsasound.service static sound.target static # systemctl list-units | egrep 'snd|alsa|pulse|sound' sys-devices-pci0000:00-0000:00:1e.2-sound-card0.device loaded active plugged 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (Optiplex GX280) sound.target # rpm -qa | sort | egrep 'pavuc|alsa|arts|kspace|phonon|pulse' alsa-1.0.27.2-3.5.1.i586 alsa-firmware-1.0.27-2.1.2.noarch alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.27-3.1.1.i586 alsa-tools-1.0.27-5.1.3.i586 alsa-tools-gui-1.0.27-5.1.3.i586 alsa-utils-1.0.27.2-4.5.1.i586 arts-1.5.10-37.1.3.i586 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 libpulse0-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 pavucontrol-2.0-2.4.2.i586 pulseaudio-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 pulseaudio-module-x11-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 pulseaudio-utils-4.0.git.270.g9490a-20.1.i586 pyalsa-1.0.26-5.1.2.i586 trinity-arts-1.5.10-14.0.2_1.oss131.i586 trinity-arts-config-pulseaudio-1.5.10-14.0.2_1.oss131.i586 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org