Billie Walsh said the following on 05/26/2013 10:44 AM:
If someone signs up to be a Beta Tester they go in with open eyes and knowing what to expect. To just dump a late stage Alpha, or early stage Beta, on the public is hardly sporting. No wonder so many users got..................UPSET, shall we say, [ The preferred word might not be acceptable on the list. ] and abandoned KDE entirely. A large chunk of what was expected to be there wasn't ready at all yet so it wasn't released for almost six months after the official "release" of KDE4. Half of what was there totally sucked. Certain distros were do out with long term releases so KDE4 was dumped early to meet the deadline of the releases.
IIR there was nothing covert about KDE4. No-one was saying that it was a completed product; all the warnings were there -- "use at your own risk".
My point with this thread was that five years on people are still whining and moaning about it.
And what are they whining about? If they are whining that it WAS - as in back when - released as "beta" as you say above, then my view is GET OVER IT Its like Mrs Havisham in Dickens who wont let go, never removing her wedding dress, leaving the wedding cake uneaten on the table, never moving on getting on with life. If they are moaning and whining that the KDE4.10.3 of May 2013 is unstable and broken, then they obviously aren't paying attention and using it. If they are saying that KDE4 isn't KDE3, well so what? The Linux kernel of today isn't the Linux kernel of when KDE3 was released. Sometimes things pass a watershed. The elasticity of change is reached and evolution has to give way to revolution. So what *ARE* they still whining about?
There are options. If KDE3 is your dream then there are distros that meet your dream. That's one of the great things about Linux. There is something for everyone and you have choices. If you don't like something, or it doesn't work for you, find one that does fit your needs/desires.
Indeed. So stop whining that one that doesn't fit you needs doesn't fit your needs and go with one that does.
I didn't like KDE4 at first any more than anyone else. The big difference is that I didn't whine and moan about it I just hunkered down and learned how to work with it, and make it work with me. Five years in I'm quite happy with one exception, no Quanta+. Not a deal breaker, but a pet peeve. I have Bluefish. Not up to Quanta+ standards but usable.
YMMV. Some projects 'die' when the maintainer/developer stops working on them an no-one takes over. -- How long did the whining go on when KDE2 went on KDE3? The only universal constant is change. If a species can not adapt it goes extinct. That's the law of the universe, adapt or die. -- Billie Walsh, May 18 2013 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org