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Re: [opensuse] simple data security: RAID1 or rsync?
- From: Anton Aylward <opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 08:08:37 -0400
- Message-id: <4FA669C5.4000608@antonaylward.com>
phanisvara das said the following on 05/06/2012 05:25 AM:
I suspect we all overlook things - its the old "Where you stand depends
on where you sit"//"Context is everything".
But Per has a few pertinent observations.
1. RAID is about availability, not backup.
2. Keeping the librarian's /home on the file server using NFS, a very
well established technique that dates back to SUN and the 1980s,
does address part of your problem.
3. We've discussed using LVM instead of RAID in the past. Its easier
to set up LVM mirroring of partitions *AND* you can use LVM to do
disk-to-disk backup.
4. Ultimately backup means transferring to another media; tape,
removable disk, or something, and archiving it securely. This
has nothing to do with RAID or RSYNC.
I know, first hand, that
a) NFS mount of users home directory works well.
b) LVM is easy to set up if you start the disk with it, but pernickity
if you try to 'convert' and existing disk, partition or drive. You
need to have experience (i.e. have got it wrong catastrophically in
the past and figured out why). So start with a new set of drives.
If you do that its easy.
c) LVM snapshot is in real-time until you tell it to stop.
d) You can backup snapshots onto DVD. I have a policy of using 4G
partitions to facilitate that. Its nice to have them as mountable
file systems.
I'm of the opinion that for what I'm doing, RAID-per-RAID is too
complex, involves too many decisions and too many drives. With LVM I
can use any number of any drive of any old size according to my budget,
add them or remove them. KISS.
But YMMV.
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i'm afraid i'm overlooking something obvious, that's why i'm asking here,
where many have much more experience with this type of thing.
I suspect we all overlook things - its the old "Where you stand depends
on where you sit"//"Context is everything".
But Per has a few pertinent observations.
1. RAID is about availability, not backup.
2. Keeping the librarian's /home on the file server using NFS, a very
well established technique that dates back to SUN and the 1980s,
does address part of your problem.
3. We've discussed using LVM instead of RAID in the past. Its easier
to set up LVM mirroring of partitions *AND* you can use LVM to do
disk-to-disk backup.
4. Ultimately backup means transferring to another media; tape,
removable disk, or something, and archiving it securely. This
has nothing to do with RAID or RSYNC.
I know, first hand, that
a) NFS mount of users home directory works well.
b) LVM is easy to set up if you start the disk with it, but pernickity
if you try to 'convert' and existing disk, partition or drive. You
need to have experience (i.e. have got it wrong catastrophically in
the past and figured out why). So start with a new set of drives.
If you do that its easy.
c) LVM snapshot is in real-time until you tell it to stop.
d) You can backup snapshots onto DVD. I have a policy of using 4G
partitions to facilitate that. Its nice to have them as mountable
file systems.
I'm of the opinion that for what I'm doing, RAID-per-RAID is too
complex, involves too many decisions and too many drives. With LVM I
can use any number of any drive of any old size according to my budget,
add them or remove them. KISS.
But YMMV.
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breaking point by computer-generated inputs. -- Dennis Ritchie
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