On 02/05/12 06:57, Robin Klitscher wrote:
On 02/05/12 07:11, Jim Flanagan wrote:
I think everyone needs to take a deep breath and move on. Sigs are a way of showing personality. Making one unique. Sort of, well, human. Isn't this the point of this list, and the software we use (and some create) and discuss here? Anyway, if someone doesn't like a sig (or a post), move on. Its not the end of the world. Amen to that.
To me, this whole discussion is both unfortunate and unnecessary. Childish, even; and if there is a point to it, it is neither the point nor the purpose of this list.
I wonder, too, if I'm the only one who sees a serious contradiction between a proposal that sigs should be managed by regulation and the founding mores of open source???
Unfortunately, this matter is not as childish as you think it is. A person who contributed his experience and knowledge to these lists was banned from these lists because of the signature he started to use. And all because one person whinged to Henne. Here is the text of a post in opensuse-offtopic, dated 12 March 2010, which saw quite a number of people take their business elsewhere: /quote Hi Folks, As you probably know, Fred has been removed from all openSuSE mailing lists. While I don't use signatures myself, I feel that the reaction to Fred's sig was overblown. I'm not religious myself, but I've certainly had my oxen gored any number of times on this list and others. Folks should just respect the opinions of others as long as they're not ad hominem in nature. Fred's signature wasn't rude to any one person, and was arguably accurate in it's content. But what's more disturbing to me is that one religious person can complain and have someone who's made a valuable contribution to these lists removed. As such, I'm going to remove myself from this list and the other openSuSE lists to which I've been subscribed for many years. It's been fun and quite a ride, and I will miss the contacts that I've made here. I'd also like to extend an invitation to one and all to join another off-topic mailing list. Fred and Bruce have joined, and I hope that others will consider joining too. Everyone is welcome. http://sweet-haven.com/mailman/listinfo/offtopic The sweet-haven domain name isn't an accident, it has always served as a "haven" for waifs cast adrift on the Internet Seas. It's also Popeye the Sailor Man's hometown, and I really, against all reason, liked that movie with Robin Williams. I hope to see you over on offtopic@sweet-haven.com. Regards, Lew /unquote So you see the matter of sigs is not "childish". If you also follow another thread in the list called "Sigs" started by Per you will read that I admit in a post there that at the time I supported Fred's banning and gave my reasons for doing so and which is why I now am promoting the banning of the use of sigs to stop unnecessary complaints about their contents by people like Patrick and to stop people like Fred being banned simply because some religious zealot complained. If there were no sigs there would not be the chance for anyone to complain. BC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org