Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1213 mails)

[Ken Schneider - openSUSE <suse-list3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 04/24/12 13:16, Carlos E. R. pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
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> On 2012-04-24 17:09, Felix Miata wrote:
> > On 2012/04/24 15:26 (GMT+0200) Carlos E. R. composed:
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> > > Felix Miata wrote:
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> > > > >   There is no need to install/remove anything.
> >
> > > >   No, but it's a logical thing to do if booting that way solves the
> > > > problem(s).
> >
> > > I think it is preferable to leave it installed, in order to learn if the
> > > problem has been solved. I assume that all those problems are reported to
> > > Bugzilla, and I know for certain that the maintainer is quite active
> > > because I have reported several.
> >
> > For a tester, I can't disagree, or for an ordinary bug. Systemd trouble is
> > no ordinary bug, while the OP certainly seems to be no willing tester.
> > Systemd is a whole class of bugs like KDE4.0-4.5 was, betaware foisted on
> > users prematurely. Ordinary mortal users who need their systems to just
> > work don't need and shouldn't be bothered by major system overhauls that
> > are incomplete, unless the devs' goal is to get them to switch to some
> > other distro.
>
> You need to be.
>
> SystemV is going to disappear sooner or later, like it or not. There is no
> way around that, and I'm not saying I like it. You'd better get involved in
> reporting the bugs that impede you using it, because I'm not. Perhaps in a
> year or two there will not be systemv as backup and you will be stuck.

In a year or two it should be out of alpha/beta stage.

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Ken Schneider
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