Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1188 mails)

[Roger Luedecke <roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, 2012-01-14 at 18:04 -0800, Steven Hess wrote: 
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Roger Luedecke
> <roger.luedecke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 00:41 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> > > On Friday, 2012-01-13 at 13:32 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote:
> > >
> > > > Honestly, besides that I'm very much not fond of Gnome Shell there are
> > > > other concerns. For example, the insistence of needing 3D acceleration
> > > > will be bad for business desktop users who haven't needed such a thing,
> > > > and thus require massive upgrades to make Gnome work properly.
> > >
> > > Indeed.
> > >
> > > > Plus,
> > > > lets face it... even Grandma can use Gnome 2. The new paradigm isn't an
> > > > improvement in usability as anticipated. This concerns me further with
> > > > Enterprise users... demo this shit, and see how quickly Windows gets the
> > > > upper hand in Enterprise environments.
> > >
> > > Unless people go to xfce or similar.
> > >
> > > > As far as that goes, if we can
> > > > accept the issues of hardware acceleration then I would say Cinnamon
> > > > essentially has the right idea.
> > >
> > > I like it. I hope to see it here.
> > >
> > > > Reinventing the wheel keeps things from
> > > > rolling. I also take issue with abandoning Compiz which is likely the
> > > > best compositing thingamajig on the market. Would it be that hard to
> > > > port the old style panels and such to GTK3?
> > >
> > > I did not like compiz either.
> > I like compiz simply because it works very well, and smoothly... whereas
> > KWin chokes painfully on operations that compiz make look like childs
> > play.
> > > By the way:
> > >
> > > Linus Torvalds dubs GNOME 3 'unholy mess'
> > > <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/05/linus_slams_gnome_three/>
> > >
> > > “Linux daddy Linus Torvalds has dropped GNOME 3 in favor of the Xfce
> > > graphical desktop interface, dubbing GNOME 3 an "unholy mess".”
> > I personally worry a bit extra when Linus says something sucks. I
> > mean... we wouldn't be here were it not for him.
> >
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> Some of us say nothing and continue to use an older supported stable
> openSUSE version of our chosen desktop environment and don't rush to
> upgrade like headless chickens just because a new release is out.
> All releases have horror stories. Some are just worse then others.
> Thanks for being test cases those that are.
>
> Steven
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> openSUSE  Linux 11.4
Having been a KDE fan, I tend to look forward to releases since it
usually ensures significant improvements to KDE itself. But in fact, you
are right. 12.2 proved troublesome enough I rolled back to 11.4 and
chose Gnome as my DE of choice.

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