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Re: [opensuse] Where does the charge of the deleted mails go?
  • From: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 08:55:12 -0500
  • Message-id: <CAGpXXZK94s3qEg16j7_FeNXr5fuwA735=oCi95fU_G57DWvWXQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:39 AM, PM <worldwithoutfences@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,

Can one explain me if I am wrong or right in thinking the following:

We have emails. Suppose someone has at gmail, like:
email_address@xxxxxxxxx. Does it mean that on the server of gmail.com,
some space has been allocated to this address which names itself as
"email_address", means which is on the hard-disk space of gmail.com
servers, a small block of space? And even when someone has deleted all
the mails, even from Trash, where those mail actually goes after
getting vanished? Or is it like that the charge of those deleted mails
(which was earlier residing on the space allocated on the server) gets
neutralized, if it happens, how does it happen?

I really don't know if I am missing something or wrongly interpreted this.

Best Regards,
PM

I don't know what email server side solution gmail uses, but most
linux solutions store each email on the server in its own file.

So when a email is "deleted", the corresponding file on the server is deleted.

Note that gmail first moves deleted files into a trash folder for
approx. 30 days, then deletes them from the trash at that point. You
can bypass the trash folder if you want.

You can still use data recovery tools to get it back most likely, but
for traditional discussions, it is gone.

fyi: If your question is about what google could provide in response
to a search warrant / subpoena, they just provide the existing files.

I'm not aware of them ever using a data recovery tool to pull emails
which have already been emptied from the trash.

fyi: I consult with lawyers on issues like this, so I have a
reasonably good background for answering the legal side of the
question.

Greg
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