Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1785 mails)

["David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 11/24/2011 04:55 PM, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
> When pasting data use "Insert Special" under the "Edit" pull-down where you 
> can
> paste the buffer unformatted.

Ken,

<not shooting the messenger buddy, you know that>

  Edit -> Paste Special is the same as 'ctrl+shift+v' in the original post, then
still have a second operation to choose 'unformatted text'. That completely
destroys the efficiency of the select buffer. It adds 3 more steps where NONE
were required before. Using the select buffer, eliminates having to use the copy
buffer. I simply want to use the select buffer without it being polluted with
html format tags. Think about it. If you have 150 items to paste, then it goes
like this.

(1) Using the traditional select buffer middle mouse paste, the steps are:

  (a) select the text, it's placed in 'select buffer' automatically;
  (b) click middle-mouse to 'position' & 'paste' and your done.

(2) Using the 'paste special' unformatted text option it is:

  (a) select the text, it's still placed in 'select buffer' but *unused*;
  (b) ctrl+c -or- rt-click choose copy -or- edit menu -> copy, to place in 'copy
buffer' (or clipboard);
  (c) left click to position for paste; then next
  (d) ctrl+shift+v -or- 'edit menu' -> 'paste special' to activate paste special
dialog; then
  (e) choose 'unformatted text' from the dialog to paste from copy buffer.

  That is totally ridiculous!!! What about Linux efficiency?? I can do the
'paste special' thing in Microsoft. Think about it... Before the smartest guys
in the room assumed everybody wants html formatting captured every time you
select something, there were two simply steps to efficiently transfer
unformatted information from a web page to a spread sheet or word processor --
(a) select the data and (b) press middle mouse to paste. When the dang html
format tags are included, with NO way to turn it off, that simple process has
been destroyed. Now you have more than doubled the steps you must to go through
just to get the same data to the same place. With one or two bits of date -- who
cares..., but with 150 bits of data to move, that is:

*150 more:*   ctrl+c -or- rt-click choose copy -or- edit menu -> copy

*150 more:*   ctrl+shift+v -or- 'edit menu' -> 'paste special'

*150 more:*   choose 'unformatted text' from the paste special dialog

  That's just plain nuts. If there were simply an option (recall that
cornerstone of Linux) to either (a) set the select buffer to "select unformatted
text only" or (b) an OO or Libre option to:

    default paste operation: [Unformatted Text]  (select box)

  Then I wouldn't have any complaint at all. But, as far as I can tell, there is
no way to any longer use the select buffer to paste into OO or LO without
pasting the darn html formatting as well. And to think, 2 years ago, things just
worked.....

  I seem to recall not very long ago being able to seamlessly use FF to
select/paste using the 'select buffer' in OO. I'm hoping that there is some FF
setting in about:config that controls whether select also selects DOM
attributes, but so far I can't find it. Wolfgang, you know of anything like 
that?

  Thanks for the thoughts Ken (and everyone), I hope you had a great
Thanksgiving. If anybody else has any thoughts on how to prevent the html
tags/DOM attributes/whatever you want to call them from being picked up by the
select buffer, I would welcome your thoughts.

-- 
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
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