On 11/21/2011 02:09 PM, Roger Luedecke wrote:
On Monday, November 21, 2011 06:57:53 PM Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Monday 21 Nov 2011 01:41:24 Bruce Ferrell wrote:
What I've noted is a tendency to short, less informative answers, a tendency to react defensively, deny or debate reports of difficulties and just a general level of snarkiness. I don't think the list has seen a massive influx of windows converts (who, even if we want to, shouldn't be treated like idiots), I could be wrong. This isn't a "them" and "us" situation. Please, lets try not to turn it into one. I for one, even if I don't write patches, do contribute by doing bug reports, buying the boxed set and doing all I can to promote Suse in my workplace. Even if these contributions aren't globally visible and well known, what does it hurt to ask a question or two if you didn't get enough information to help, or just not answer at all if all you can respond with is a nasty RTFM. Here's a suggestion. Don't suddenly turn on people who are trying to help you and accuse them of playing games and starting a pissing contest becuase _you_ screwed something up. Quite frankely if people were being "snarky" with you, it's because you were being a wanker. That totaly depends on the type of initial reply you get and first replys i have seen recently would get a thup on the nose from me in a face to face situation because they are completely uncalled for and out of line with
On Monday 21 November 2011 16:25:54 Graham Anderson wrote: the question being asked , I have seen very few helpfull first second or third replys to peoples problems for quite a long time now more in the way of you are wrong cus i said you are wrong not good at all .
That is why i am still on 11.3 i have looked at 12.1 had problems tried to get help got a sarcastic comment far as i am concerned 12.1 is now officially dead
Pete . Part of the problem is people don't do early testing so we can catch bugs better before release. Everybody wants it stable, but few are willing to risk some instability to assure a better result for us all. And I'm as much to blame for that as any others :(
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