On Monday, November 21, 2011 08:37:26 AM Bruce Ferrell wrote:
On 11/21/2011 08:12 AM, Bombshellz Administrator wrote:
On 11/21/2011 10:53 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 01:41 -0800, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
I usually wait a while before installing a new release, I usually wait a bit to let things die down some gaining the benefit of the first waves experience. This time, I'm in the first wave and it's no fun.
Same here; I usually wait, but there are numerous things in 12.1 I really wanted - so I jumped right in. Upgrading on my laptop went completely sideways. This was due I think to my nVidia video are and that I was using the GNOME 3.0 repos for 11.4 previously.
But once I did a re-install [not that painful since my /home is a separate volume] everything has worked extremely well: wireless, multiple displays, etc... And I'm no longer using the proprietary nVidia drivers, everything seems to be working with the Open nouveau driver - which is *SWEET*.
What I've noted is a tendency to short, less informative answers, a tendency to react defensively, deny or debate reports of difficulties and just a general level of snarkiness.
I perceive this as well, but not just here. I've been a UNIX sys-admin for ~20 years and a LINUX user since kernel 0.99a. In general assitance in most forums has declined and snarkiness is up. But this is one of the better forums - if you want to see real unfriendliness try out the Postfix list.
Hello,
It's interesting someone had the courage to point out the flaws in support regarding Linux. The "snarkiness" so to speak is very unfortunate and yeah it has become a common occurrence. Sometimes I feel, why bother with Linux if this how people volunteering their time chooses to behave. But I must admit, it's been relatively friendly here.
Best Regards
Best Regards.
Yep,
As I alluded to, I suspect it has something to do with the stress of a big rollout and the spin off form Novell/Attachmate, but I can only guess about that. When I started using SuSE back in 2002, I could count on very solid support from the community, more so that on the redhat lists. Now it seems as if unless we actually cut important mainline code we're just Lusers, unable to do anything but drool.
sigh
Ice cream break is over, back on my head. Frankly, I think what has been seen is simply the month or two of accumulated stress ramping up to the release. Things didn't start getting fugly until about the time they started with the 12.1 release candidates. Give them a month, or until after the holidays to be back to normal (unusually friendly for us) selves. -- Roger Luedecke openSUSE Ambassador Ind. Repairs and Consulting **Looking for a C++ etc. mentor*** -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org