Hi Folks, A few days ago I did a zypper dup against the KDE:/Release:/47/openSUSE_11.4/ repository and boy howdy, the pasta really it the fan! I initially had an ATI adapter and after the upgrade kdm would crash, as would xstart after Xorg was made suid root. After flailing around and making negative progress I decided to retire the whole desktop and made a new installation on a second system with an NVIDIA adapter. After the same update to 4.7 kdm was crashing again, as was X started manually. The Xorg.0.log log didn't have any "EE" errors, X just blinked out of existence. After more flailing about I discovered that X failed ONLY for users who listed tcsh as their default login shell! Bash users worked fine after issuing "startx". Kdm is still borked. So X has an issue when being started from the tcsh shell. Think this is worth filing a bug report? Anyone else seen it? Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org