Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (929 mails)

[Insomniac <Insomniactoo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Monday, August 29, 2011 13:08 Brian K. White wrote:

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> >    Don't install them! You have a choice! Any of the older Firefox's work
> >    just
> >
> > fine, as do any of the SeaMonkey's, Konqueror was a beautiful browser
> > *AND* works better than that abortion we have now called dolphin.
>
> Well, I actually agree with 90% of what you said but in the interest of
> correctness, I do have to point out that this last is not quite true.
>
> Just as it's not unilaterally easy to "just install kde3" as your
> example shows, so too it is not unilaterally easy to "just keep using
> the old version"

I never, nowhere said KDE3 will install easily. I said versions 7.3 and 9.3 
were, IMO, the best versions suse put out and that KDE3 worked and worked well 
in them.

> Try to log in to Google+ with the version of firefox embedded into the
> InstantON mini linux OS on several Viao and other laptops. All you get
> is a screen that says, literal quote, "Your browser is no longer
> supported. Google+ no longer supports your browser. Please upgrade your
> browser." and offers download links for the latest chrome, ie, firefox,
> & safari.

This is where Konqueror shined. I could have it tell a website that pulled that 
kind of garbage that I *am* using what is needed. None of these other browser 
did or do that now, unfortunately. It takes many of us too, to tell those who 
make such wastes of cyberspace to *stop* being so browser centric. What 
possible 
good does it do anyone other than to pad the pockets of somebody who can barely 
turn on their computer in the first place. It's sad that it's come to this 
(it's 
just much, much worse these past 4 or 5 years, than it ever was before then).

> Gee how nice. I would love to upgrade the browser but that mini OS is
> only updatable by Sony and they are NOT. It's made of linux and other
> gpl stuff like firefox but never the less source is not available. Sure
> it's GPL violation but that doesn't magically make it possible for all
> the users to actually do what other users and developers are saying they
> should "just do". And this old version of firefox? It's only from late
> 2009, not _nearly_ as old as suse 9.3.

  Don't support Sony then. Don't use or buy anything that works in such a way. 
By buying their garbage, you tell them that it's 'okay' to violate GPL and 
telling the devs to FOAD and screw what license they want used on their work. 
Seems pretty simple to me, but I'm sure there's a variable in there somewhere, 
but I'd find a way to get around it if this is the cost and hit to the free 
world and FOSS.

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