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On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 16:12, Anton Aylward <opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > What KDE4 version?
>
> 4.7 of course.  From K:D:F

Same here.

> > Possible causes?  Not lockign the widgets? An old KDE4 config in your
> > /home?  Have you tried with a clean KDE4 config?
>
> Oh Sh**!   Why do I have to keep wiping this out?
> Why can't you (plural) say what rc file to zap instead of hitting the whole
> ~/.kde4/share tree?

Whoa... settle down :-)  I only mentioned it as a possibility...
something you could try in debugging this.  I haven't ran into that
problem/solution since about 4.2 or 4.3.  I haven't had to wipe out
any config files in ages, but.. in the distant past it has helped.
I'm not saying it's the definite solution here...

> This is akin to fixing problems in Widows by re-installation.
> I thought we were better than that!

We are... in that all you need to do to test a clean config is rename
the /kde4 directory and try a log in.  If that doesn't fix it, then
the prob isn't the local config.  If it does, it narrows things down a
little.


> so what you're saying is because I've been a faithful KDE4 user since 4.0
> rather tan one of those recidivist that gripe about how much better 3.5 is,
> someone who hung in there, I'm suffering for it.

Ummmm.. no.  I'm saying that *sometimes* in *some* cases, some bit
laying about from a KDE4 install that has gone through multiple
updates through multiple major version 4 releases has exhibited
problems that could be traced back to a broken config file... and this
is an easy thing to  test.

> I'm fed up of having to do diffs on snapshots of ~./.kde4/ to restore my
> settings and other data.
>
> Why can't you just tell me a specific rc files under ~./.kde4/share/config
> to edit

Because the problems you're having are not commonly known issues.
There is something odd or unique that you're running into that is not
consistent with your average current KDE4 install.  I can't say "oh,
that is this known problem, go edit/delete the XYZ file and your
problem will magically go away" :-P  I'm def not an expert on this...
just trying to help with pin pointing the problem.


> What annoys me is that when I do have problems like this, which I try to ask
> "is it me and config or is it a bug", I get replies from (some) people
> saying "I don't have that problem" but they don't try to help me find what
> the problem is.

I was trying :-)  I am not a developer... just a user like you.
Sometimes a few questions on the part of another user results in an
"aha" moment.  That's what I was aiming for.


> And, Clayton, I wiped ~/.kde4 and let KDE rebuild it just two weeks ago with
> that TB/FF issue.  The only "backup" was a .tar.gz of "baskets". Setting
> were all done from the control panel(s).
>
> So no, I don't think its debris from 4.2 or 4.3.

Then I'd say it isn't the problem either.

I don't have any concrete ideas here.  I've been using KDE4.7 since it
was available on Factory, with Firefox5 and the latest Thuderbird
without issues on multiple installs.  If we could determine what's
different between a working system/confnig and yours, the borked
one... we'd have something for a decent bug report


> And I don't have these problems, widgets or 'recently used' programs, nor
> the ones with TB/FF, with the Fedora-15 box at the other end of my desk.  So
> its a config, or possibly an interaction between parts, problem.
>
> And if you don't have the problem then assuredly its a config issue.
>
> And if I wiped `./.kde4 just before 4.7 and let KDE rebuild except for my
> adding widgets (weather, temp, cpu load) and klipper, mixer, and settings of
> pager and task manager, then there is some interaction between all those
> that is ... strange.   I don't imagine I have the same set of widget s set
> up the same way you do, Clayton, so what else could it be?

Ummmm... I suppose maybe I could send you - off list - my stable KDE4
RC files and see if it still breaks on your end?

C.
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