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Re: [opensuse] KDE or Gnome?
- From: Anton Aylward <anton.aylward@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 12:53:59 -0400
- Message-id: <4DB455A7.3020302@rogers.com>
Mike Coday said the following on 04/24/2011 11:43 AM:
How long ago was that?
All the modern distribution - Suse, Redhat, Mandriva and Ubuntu, the
"Volkswagen" (aka "People's Linux") of operating systems - can all be
installed and configured for normal PC hardware without recourse to the
command line. I've read that Linux is easier to install than Windows,
but I've never had the opportunity to install Windows.
Many bloggers describe things in terms of command line because that are
writing text. Its easier and shorter to give the command line that to
try and describe all the operations and fields of one or more GUI
screens that do the same thing.
So unless you are doing something esoteric or dealing with odd and
relicrant hardware - which is what we discuss here a lot of the time -
you shouldn't need to use the command line.
Yes its different, but then so is using the MAC or using a Blackberry.
Its easy to be fooled, just as its easy to be fooled moving between
England and the USA where they speak English but everything is
different. BTDT - some assumptions can get you killed.
"Relicrant hardware". Yes, there is that. A lot of cheap PC or ones
that have some compromise in the hardware will hang when you try to
install Linux.
Ask and we'll advise, but a lot of that is no more difficult than
setting up another Windows PC on your network. You'll have to fill in
the name of the network group -- just like on Windows. The thing is
that the tools (GUI) are different.
And since there are many ways of doing a GUI - depending on which
desktop you are using :-) - we will probably tell you to edit the
relevant config file :-) We all agree on the config file :-)
Which is different from UNIX command line stuff for setting up a network
etc how?
(Hint: unless you're doing something esoteric, it isn't.)
IF you want this to be independent of the desktop you choose,
THEN you are going to have to deal with the command line.
Ah, that sounds like a good way to get frustrated.
Pick one and stick with it.
Every time you switch you throw away what you just learnt and have to
learn anew.
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Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.
--Edward Everett
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In the past when I tried migrating to Linux (ubuntu and others before) I
would end up freezing the machine somehow when I was in the learning
curve. Life is just too busy for me to spend endless hours reinstalling
the OS, so I would give up and reluctantly go back to Windows.
I think there is no question that linux is a little geeky, more command
line knowledge needed than windows, plus the language is a little
unfamiliar.
How long ago was that?
All the modern distribution - Suse, Redhat, Mandriva and Ubuntu, the
"Volkswagen" (aka "People's Linux") of operating systems - can all be
installed and configured for normal PC hardware without recourse to the
command line. I've read that Linux is easier to install than Windows,
but I've never had the opportunity to install Windows.
Many bloggers describe things in terms of command line because that are
writing text. Its easier and shorter to give the command line that to
try and describe all the operations and fields of one or more GUI
screens that do the same thing.
So unless you are doing something esoteric or dealing with odd and
relicrant hardware - which is what we discuss here a lot of the time -
you shouldn't need to use the command line.
Yes its different, but then so is using the MAC or using a Blackberry.
Its easy to be fooled, just as its easy to be fooled moving between
England and the USA where they speak English but everything is
different. BTDT - some assumptions can get you killed.
"Relicrant hardware". Yes, there is that. A lot of cheap PC or ones
that have some compromise in the hardware will hang when you try to
install Linux.
I am having trouble configuring the browser preference, having trouble
tapping in to the existing windows network here at home, so that I can
access shared stuff like printers, scanners, document folder (we all
switched to Open Office years ago to help with the eventual move to
linux) music library, etc.
Ask and we'll advise, but a lot of that is no more difficult than
setting up another Windows PC on your network. You'll have to fill in
the name of the network group -- just like on Windows. The thing is
that the tools (GUI) are different.
And since there are many ways of doing a GUI - depending on which
desktop you are using :-) - we will probably tell you to edit the
relevant config file :-) We all agree on the config file :-)
My spouse used to administer a unix system before retirement, but that
was a few years ago, and I don't think she has interest in learning
linux command line stuff because it would cut in to gardening time.
Which is different from UNIX command line stuff for setting up a network
etc how?
(Hint: unless you're doing something esoteric, it isn't.)
I don't want to start the desktop war. Just need a little help and
don't want to be completely obnoxious noobie as I try again to switch
platforms.
IF you want this to be independent of the desktop you choose,
THEN you are going to have to deal with the command line.
I am going to try installing KDE, LXDE and some of the others mentioned
and see if I can sort it out.
Ah, that sounds like a good way to get frustrated.
Pick one and stick with it.
Every time you switch you throw away what you just learnt and have to
learn anew.
--
Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.
--Edward Everett
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