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Re: [opensuse] Funny/Sad story about Philips SPC530NC webcam on 11.4
- From: Insomniac <insomniac@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:04:16 -0500
- Message-id: <201104141304.16536.Insomniac@toast2.net>
On Thursday, April 14, 2011 12:14 Brian K. White wrote:
Many people *did*. Who are you to ASSume no one did?
funny how that "dead end" worked for a number of years until some morons at
the kernel level decided to show that they're better than everyone else and
screw over the guy who *DID* "waste his time" getting a *LOT* of Philips
webcams
working.
Yes, I can.
See two paragraphs above. It all 'worked' just fine, better, as a matter of
fact, than most garbage I've seen nowadays. I've got a friend who refuses to go
to Linux, and has spent way too much money on nice equipment, including things
like new webcams. The pictures he sends me, taken with whatever model he's
using
at the time, have all sucked, compared to my old Philips...which worked
wonderfully, to remind you.
So, you finally came down off that high, white horse to the level of us
peons.
Thanks for nothing, your hypocrisy is duly noted.
IT WAS ALREADY DONE! You have a short-term memory problem, right?
Or, we can all let you know what an asshat you are for trying to bully your
POV onto anyone who doesn't see things in the same light as yourself. What a
dick. I bet you're a real blast at parties too...the one everyone likes to tell
to FOAD after you've been there 10 minutes...or less. How's that for an
'insult'
to YOU, you pin-headed minge.
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On 4/14/2011 12:22 PM, Marco Calistri wrote:
On Thu 14 Apr 2011 at 11:34:25 (-0300 UTC) j debert wrote:
On 04/12/2011 03:34 PM, Insomniac wrote:
Philips webcams used to work fantastically in SuSE, all the way up
to 10.3
IIRR. For some odd reason the kernel people or the suse people or
whomever it was, decided to remove the part that made them work. You
know, the 'fix what ain't broke' people.
The original pwc module maintainer eventually quit out of frustration
with the kernel maintainers. This was covered on Slashdot at the time
and the "discussion" was furious. It very much seemed as if the
maintainer was being singled out by the kernel people and
intentionally and specifically blocked from including his modules. The
module's maintenance was taken up by another developer who stopped
maintaining it not long after.
The original kernel module was in two parts, one of which was a
proprietary binary which provided the larger format compression
routines. The maintainer could not provide source until the NDA with
Phillips expired, which occurred about a year after he quit. It's
unfortunate the original maintainer quit: The original modules worked
the best. They worked well up to OpenSuSE 10.3 but sometime before
end-of-life, something changed enough to break the modules. Since
then, nothing for these webcams has worked well, if at all.
jd
My sincere compliments to this unaceptable group of devs which are
willing "to close an open software".
The result is that Microsoft will continue to be present massively as
the "de facto" O.S. for millions of users.
Regards,
How about if you have to piss on someone blame the manufacturer who
insisted on supplying a binary-only black mystery box?
Many people *did*. Who are you to ASSume no one did?
You can't fault
anyone else for being uninterested in wasting their time and talents one
such a dead end instead of working on more rewarding and forward looking
products and projects.
funny how that "dead end" worked for a number of years until some morons at
the kernel level decided to show that they're better than everyone else and
screw over the guy who *DID* "waste his time" getting a *LOT* of Philips
webcams
working.
You also can't fault anyone for having the deeper understanding that
something is not always better than nothing.
Yes, I can.
Having hardware that can't
_possibly_ be made to work reliably and stable because the quality,
See two paragraphs above. It all 'worked' just fine, better, as a matter of
fact, than most garbage I've seen nowadays. I've got a friend who refuses to go
to Linux, and has spent way too much money on nice equipment, including things
like new webcams. The pictures he sends me, taken with whatever model he's
using
at the time, have all sucked, compared to my old Philips...which worked
wonderfully, to remind you.
Yes, it's true you don't always have a simple choice to use other
hardware.
So, you finally came down off that high, white horse to the level of us
peons.
Thanks for nothing, your hypocrisy is duly noted.
Feel free to write a good driver that's all visible forward maintainable
source if it matters so much to you.
IT WAS ALREADY DONE! You have a short-term memory problem, right?
Then when you get tired of that, or if you don't even start, we can all
insult you for it.
Or, we can all let you know what an asshat you are for trying to bully your
POV onto anyone who doesn't see things in the same light as yourself. What a
dick. I bet you're a real blast at parties too...the one everyone likes to tell
to FOAD after you've been there 10 minutes...or less. How's that for an
'insult'
to YOU, you pin-headed minge.
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conceived." -Isaac Asimov
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