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Re: [opensuse] Open Office Question
On Sunday 13 February 2011 14.46:42, C wrote:
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 13:00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
If you know how I can create my own style sheet containg *only* my own
styles, I'd be greatful if you could point me to a page that explains
how to...

Define the styles you want, save them to the Default template, or
create your own custom template. Then in the Styles window, down at
the bottom there is a dropdown... set it to Custom Styles... and
presto, you see only your own styles.

You cannot remove the built-in styles, but you definitely do not need
to use them or look at them.

Take a look at:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Get
ting_Started/Deleting_styles and
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Get
ting_Started/Creating_new_styles

I am used to work with styles since PageMaker-times, use them in html css
and so on, I'd really appreciate to use them in writer as well, but I
have not found a way to get rid of the tons of predefined formats. Per
type of doc I need maybe 10 styles, but I have to search for them in a
huge list, thus making it much faster just to hard format.

You're simply using styles the "hard way" if you have to search for them
:-)

If you're defining 100% custom styles - ie not re-using any predefined
styles, then use the Custom Styles view i mentioned above.
Alternatively, you can use the Applied Styles view and you see the
styles, both custom and predefined, that are in use in the document -
makes it super easy to repeat specific styles through a document.

changed meanwhile, so if the possibility to create slim, simple custom
style sheets exists now, I'd like to know...

This chapter:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Get
ting_Started/Templates_and_Styles should cover all the basics you need to
know.

C.

thanks for your detailed reply. I had a look at the pages, did a quick test
and found that my personal problem with the way OpenOffice uses styles still
remains.

Bu thanks for your kind effort anyway!

Daniel

------------- details/rant for the interested only: --------------------

The problem remains that in the selection list (above the text window, below
the menu) still appear all predefined styles, not only my own. This is where
I'd have to search in the endless list. I found no way to alter the contents
of that list.

As nearly all useful names are in use by the predefined styles, I cannot give
good names to my own ones, or I'd have to name them like "0_my_title1" thus
making the list even longer...

To make it worse, when clicking "more..." the styles window changes from "user
defined styles" to "automatic".

If I'd simply ignore the said list and just use the separate styles window,
first I have one more window open (or a larger window/smaller working space if
docked), and second I have to double-click on a style to apply it.

So I'm still faster just making something "bold" or font-size n than using the
styles. Using styles for me just multipicates the amount of clicks. Opening an
existing document, changing the contents and "save as" is more comfortable
than "open with template...".

Must say that I don't use writer very professionally; some letters, some small
publications, some bills.

------------- a bit of rant, not to answer please: --------------------

I just wonder why OpenOffice is not capable to present a styles tool where the
user decides what and how he wants to use it, as adobe already could do that
many many years ago in a very easy, very transparent way. It is one reason why
I love linux that linux usually doesn't "think" for me (like windows for
example) and just does what I tell it to do. But OpenOffice is very very MS-
Word, I guess therefor much more succesful than if it was like I liked it :-)

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