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Re: [opensuse] Upgrading KDE 4.4 > 4.5 -- was: Graduated from "Absent trash icon" to disaster
- From: Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:13:43 +0200
- Message-id: <201102061913.43810.stan.goodman@hashkedim.com>
On Sunday 06 February 2011 18:39:01 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
In fact, before I had the disaster with II.3, I had a server on each of
the two computers that make up my LAN.
The sentence, which is anyway parenthetical, is self explanatory, if one
reads it. It was about why the client is completely installed, but the
server only partly so. There is nothing in it asking for assistance in
installing an NFS server.
But I can reveal to you, if you like, what was in my mind when I wrote
that sentence. I was, and am, still confused about the asymmetry of
including the client, but not the server, in YaST by default; in previous
releases, both were in by default. If there is a client in a LAN, there
must also be a server, and the logic of the decision of why suddenly to
cut one out is unclear. It's possible that there are networks in which
there is only one server, with a multitude of clients; that may be the
case in large companies, and even of departments of such companies. But if
openSuSE (as distinct from the $$$ product) is expected to be used also by
smaller organizations and individuals, there really is no obvious reason
for putting one in YaST and the other someplace on the Web. That's why
v11.2 has both by default.
I hope that is sufficient clarification. But I don't want to talk about
it anymore.
--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel
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* Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [02-06-11 11:29]:
On Sunday 06 February 2011 18:00:15 Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [02-06-11 10:25]:
....
That reminded me that, a while before I accepted the hour-long
automatic upgrade, I had installed an NFS client in the desktop
to communicate with the laptop, and had partially installed also
an NFS server (I didn't finish that chore because I didn't have
the time just then, and it has to be done on the CLI because The
Powers That Be, in their great wisdom, have removed that facility
from YaST).
The Powers That Be, in their great wistom, have included
yast2-nfs-server/common/client in the distro, but it is not
installed in a basic system and not suggested. Those needing such
devices are expected to install them themselves by their chosen
method. A *simple* search is all that is needed to locate the
software.
Thank you, Patrick. I already have pages on how to do this. As you
say, the search for the information was not difficult.
In fact, before I had the disaster with II.3, I had a server on each of
the two computers that make up my LAN.
then what point was the comment, mud-slinging, or just verbiage?
The sentence, which is anyway parenthetical, is self explanatory, if one
reads it. It was about why the client is completely installed, but the
server only partly so. There is nothing in it asking for assistance in
installing an NFS server.
But I can reveal to you, if you like, what was in my mind when I wrote
that sentence. I was, and am, still confused about the asymmetry of
including the client, but not the server, in YaST by default; in previous
releases, both were in by default. If there is a client in a LAN, there
must also be a server, and the logic of the decision of why suddenly to
cut one out is unclear. It's possible that there are networks in which
there is only one server, with a multitude of clients; that may be the
case in large companies, and even of departments of such companies. But if
openSuSE (as distinct from the $$$ product) is expected to be used also by
smaller organizations and individuals, there really is no obvious reason
for putting one in YaST and the other someplace on the Web. That's why
v11.2 has both by default.
I hope that is sufficient clarification. But I don't want to talk about
it anymore.
--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel
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