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Re: [opensuse] kde 4.5.2 - still can't place focus in konqueror in detail view with selection markers off
  • From: kanenas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 13:42:39 -1000
  • Message-id: <201010081342.40001.kanenas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Friday 08 October 2010 04:41:34 am Sven Burmeister wrote:
On Friday 08 October 2010 09:51:52 jsa wrote:
On 10/08/2010 12:01 AM, Sven Burmeister wrote:
AFAIK it's due to Qt4 handling things differently than Qt3 and thus
KDE4 would have to work around this. Instead the devs chose the new
selection tool which is a lot easier to understand for new users

You have any studies to prove how this is easier to understant?
Cuz I spend a lot of time explaining this to new users, who are totally
confused.

People understood Control Click and shift click just fine. Its been the
standard since prior to 1985.

No, they learnt it. What's the logic link between the CTRL key and using it
to select multiple files? There is none. You have to read it in a manual or
similar. A "+" is linked to "add" and as it appears if you hover the file
it is something you can click on and clicking was learnt already before.

Fire up Dolphin some time.
Open the information panel. Now you have an obvious case to focus
a file without invoking it or opening it. Mouse over an audio file
and see if you can use the Information panel player to listen to that
file without launching it.

Yes, I can. Hover it, then move the mouse cursor to the info panel and
click on the play button. Or click on the "+" and then move the mouse
cursor. If you had already another file selected, click next to the file
and then on the "+" before you move the mouse to the info panel.

Sven

just butting in, but, as the above paragraph is written, it implies that now
there exists a plethora of possible clicks, sometimes followed by specific
mouse moves, to mysterious places like "next to the file" and "+", the exact
number required for each not being exactly clear, all for a task that before
( in the prehistoric kde3 times!) needed ....*no* clicks or moves!!!!!
is that the price for being free of the ctrl key that we have been
*brainwashed* with?
is that progress?
is the above inference wrong?
just being silly here, but i think the "clicks" question will haunt kde4 until
it is fundamentally overhauled.
d.
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