Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1761 mails)

[Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 15:24 +0200, Radule Šoškić wrote:
> 1st part
> --------
> I see a lot of list users took my post as a negative and destructive 
> one, and even found me being a troll. I am very deeply sorry for that. I 
> see that many of you will not believe, but my original intention with 
> this post was truly positive. I just took some liberty to disclose two 
> samples of my own experience taken in 6-year time span.
> I am aware of the main purpose of this list and, being member for a long 
> time long time, I know that ramblings like this are not welcomed by most 
> members. God knows why, I hoped this time it will be different. I hoped 
> the list users will take me as a serious witness of old times,

A 'serious witness' wouldn't compare stable releases to factory
installs.  That just makes it fallacious.

>  someone who can give a pretty fair comparison. Indeed, how many of current 
> list 
> users were here in the times of suse 6/7/8/9 ? And, how many of those 
> who were here in that times are not here any more? (Just wandering, no 
> need for an answer.)

I've been using LINUX since 0.99a and Yggdrassil.  *Everything* is
*vastly* improved.  A current GNOME desktop is amazingly stable and
production;  I manage 200 page documents in Open Office - it has evolved
into a fantastic and powerful tool [in the beginning - I was a *paying*
user of Star Office all the way back to when it was a product of Star
Division - it was, to be kind, frustrating].  GNOME's Evolution
organizer is *sweeeeet*.  I can't even express how much I love Tomboy.
The WebDAV support in GVFS/Nautilus is very good.  And no crashes; my
machines are rock-solid stable.

> I want a stable KDE4 opensuse 11.3 machine that is updated to the latest 
> bug-fixes from the kernel all the way up to the apps like openoffice, 
> mozilla stuff (F-fox and T-bird) and mp3-aware multimedia 
> (audio/video/webcam). And yes I am ready to give up compiz and go for 
> kwin effects.

The "latest bug-fixes" means *no testing*.  You'll have problems.  Stick
with stable repositories.  You only subscribe to
factory/testing/development repositories if you *enjoy* problems;
meaning you shouldn't complain about them.

> I am ready to build up one really stable and well behaving installation. 
> I want to get the same experience as all other happy people on the list.

Just install straight 11.3.  It is really nice, except for a couple of
issues on specific hardware [which have been documented ad-nauseum
here].  

> Could you please, help me with the list of repos that I have to use, 
> besides the ones that come with fresh install.
> I sincerely want to give it a try.

If you are a KDE user [I'm not] it seems that
<http://kdeatopensuse.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/kde-week-26-32/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=laconica>
 contains a lot of information on the new repositories.
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Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> LPIC-1, Novell CLA
<http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com>
OpenGroupware, Cyrus IMAPd, Postfix, OpenLDAP, Samba

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