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Re: [opensuse] An old story, six years later (OT, or NOT?)
- From: Radule Šoškić <rms@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:24:35 +0200
- Message-id: <4C67EA93.9080700@xxxxxxxxxx>
Hi, it's me again,
First part - explanations, apologies, etc
Second part - no more rants, go for constructive action
1st part
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I see a lot of list users took my post as a negative and destructive one, and even found me being a troll. I am very deeply sorry for that. I see that many of you will not believe, but my original intention with this post was truly positive. I just took some liberty to disclose two samples of my own experience taken in 6-year time span.
I am aware of the main purpose of this list and, being member for a long time long time, I know that ramblings like this are not welcomed by most members. God knows why, I hoped this time it will be different. I hoped the list users will take me as a serious witness of old times, someone who can give a pretty fair comparison. Indeed, how many of current list users were here in the times of suse 6/7/8/9 ? And, how many of those who were here in that times are not here any more? (Just wandering, no need for an answer.)
So, I see, I took too much liberty - trying to act as someone who can see a broader picture. OK. I was wrong. I am sorry. But I'd appreciate if you could stop calling me a troll. I am still your friend, just thinking aloud and with less political correctness. But friend.
I want to say also that I was not complaining. Not at all. I use factory deliberately. In the past (and it was all suse releases from 6.4 on) I got used to update regularly to whatever was the latest repo of the time. It was my choice. And, I can manage it. I rarely come to this list with questions. Most of my problems I can solve on my own. If not, I search through the list archives. I keep a copy of all list messages locally on one of my disks, and almost have no need for googleing through archives. And I manage all my converted friends' machines as well.
2nd part
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I see that many of you think that using factory might be the sole cause of my bad experience. But, at the moment, I don't have any suse comp that is not factory.
So, here I am, asking for help:
I want a stable KDE4 opensuse 11.3 machine that is updated to the latest bug-fixes from the kernel all the way up to the apps like openoffice, mozilla stuff (F-fox and T-bird) and mp3-aware multimedia (audio/video/webcam). And yes I am ready to give up compiz and go for kwin effects.
I am ready to build up one really stable and well behaving installation. I want to get the same experience as all other happy people on the list.
Could you please, help me with the list of repos that I have to use, besides the ones that come with fresh install.
I sincerely want to give it a try.
And, don't kill me, please! Friends, remember?
~rms~
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First part - explanations, apologies, etc
Second part - no more rants, go for constructive action
1st part
--------
I see a lot of list users took my post as a negative and destructive one, and even found me being a troll. I am very deeply sorry for that. I see that many of you will not believe, but my original intention with this post was truly positive. I just took some liberty to disclose two samples of my own experience taken in 6-year time span.
I am aware of the main purpose of this list and, being member for a long time long time, I know that ramblings like this are not welcomed by most members. God knows why, I hoped this time it will be different. I hoped the list users will take me as a serious witness of old times, someone who can give a pretty fair comparison. Indeed, how many of current list users were here in the times of suse 6/7/8/9 ? And, how many of those who were here in that times are not here any more? (Just wandering, no need for an answer.)
So, I see, I took too much liberty - trying to act as someone who can see a broader picture. OK. I was wrong. I am sorry. But I'd appreciate if you could stop calling me a troll. I am still your friend, just thinking aloud and with less political correctness. But friend.
I want to say also that I was not complaining. Not at all. I use factory deliberately. In the past (and it was all suse releases from 6.4 on) I got used to update regularly to whatever was the latest repo of the time. It was my choice. And, I can manage it. I rarely come to this list with questions. Most of my problems I can solve on my own. If not, I search through the list archives. I keep a copy of all list messages locally on one of my disks, and almost have no need for googleing through archives. And I manage all my converted friends' machines as well.
2nd part
--------
I see that many of you think that using factory might be the sole cause of my bad experience. But, at the moment, I don't have any suse comp that is not factory.
So, here I am, asking for help:
I want a stable KDE4 opensuse 11.3 machine that is updated to the latest bug-fixes from the kernel all the way up to the apps like openoffice, mozilla stuff (F-fox and T-bird) and mp3-aware multimedia (audio/video/webcam). And yes I am ready to give up compiz and go for kwin effects.
I am ready to build up one really stable and well behaving installation. I want to get the same experience as all other happy people on the list.
Could you please, help me with the list of repos that I have to use, besides the ones that come with fresh install.
I sincerely want to give it a try.
And, don't kill me, please! Friends, remember?
~rms~
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