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Re: [opensuse] Quirks in a new v11.2 system
- From: Stan Goodman <stan.goodman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 19:52:52 +0300
- Message-id: <201005221952.53041.stan.goodman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
At 19:17:06 on Saturday Saturday 22 May 2010, C <smaug42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The problems are not only about bugs, but also about foolish (sic!)
decisions. To shut down the system or restart now takes twice as many
user actions than it did in kde3, without any useful purpose. Many of the
application windows are very non-intuitive for example, and "different",
but not better in any sense, except to present an additional learning
curve. In kde3, one could use .png icons in the panel. I have programs
that I want in my second panel, for which I made png icons from the very
good .ico icons that I had. Now the panel requires a vector graphic, and
I know no way to convert anything into such a format. I can understand
that the new arrangement makes it easier to program, because of the
requirement for variable size, but it makes it less convenient for users.
Whatever the kde team thinks, their product is intended for people to
use, not to provide a hobby for programmers no matter how talented. I
continue to think that the kde4 project was directed by people who do not
care a fig for what users want or need, or for user convenience. And the
rationale is "you don't pay for it, so you are at our mercy, take it or
leave it", which is shameful, not to mention egotistical.
I can understand why there are bugs. The classic case is v1.57 of
Borland's Sidekick, a DOS address book and telephone dialer, back in The
Year One. It was actually released, and it had only one bug: it didn't
know how to dial the telephone. So it happens even in well regulated
families.
Yes, of course I will update kde, if I can ever get into the one I already
have.
--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel
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On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 17:57, Stan Goodman wrote:
11.2 is better. Really :-)
That's why I installed it. My problems are with kde4, my opinion of
which has only gotten lower since I started to use it on the laptop
about a week ago.
KDE4 is very good now... but only really since the 4.4.x
incarnations... the previous versions... were... not so good. The
upcoming KDE4.5 is looking very good.
Generally speaking, a lot of the annoyances you find with KDE4 are
fixed already (that is in 4.4.3 factory) or are targeted for 4.5. It
really is worth bumping to KDE4.4.3 if you can on all machines you're
running it on
The problems are not only about bugs, but also about foolish (sic!)
decisions. To shut down the system or restart now takes twice as many
user actions than it did in kde3, without any useful purpose. Many of the
application windows are very non-intuitive for example, and "different",
but not better in any sense, except to present an additional learning
curve. In kde3, one could use .png icons in the panel. I have programs
that I want in my second panel, for which I made png icons from the very
good .ico icons that I had. Now the panel requires a vector graphic, and
I know no way to convert anything into such a format. I can understand
that the new arrangement makes it easier to program, because of the
requirement for variable size, but it makes it less convenient for users.
Whatever the kde team thinks, their product is intended for people to
use, not to provide a hobby for programmers no matter how talented. I
continue to think that the kde4 project was directed by people who do not
care a fig for what users want or need, or for user convenience. And the
rationale is "you don't pay for it, so you are at our mercy, take it or
leave it", which is shameful, not to mention egotistical.
I can understand why there are bugs. The classic case is v1.57 of
Borland's Sidekick, a DOS address book and telephone dialer, back in The
Year One. It was actually released, and it had only one bug: it didn't
know how to dial the telephone. So it happens even in well regulated
families.
Yes, of course I will update kde, if I can ever get into the one I already
have.
--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel
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