I found the beginnings of the problem. Does this make sense? Ishtar:/suse11.2> sudo zypper in xorg-x11-libx11 Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... 'xorg-x11-libX11' is already installed. Resolving package dependencies... Nothing to do. Ishtar:/suse11.2> rpm -V xorg-x11-libx11 package xorg-x11-libx11 is not installed Ishtar:/suse11.2> rpm -q xorg-x11-libx11 package xorg-x11-libx11 is not installed --- If zypper says the package is installed, shouldn't rpm also notice that it is installed? This might explain why I can have missing files/packages as I tried to upgrade from 11.1>11.2 using zypper. ( Boy was that ever a disaster -- a week of downtime just to get bootable again! Pray you never have problems with grub. It gets real flakey in handling file systems -- doing reads/writes from disk while the file system is still mounted! After many headaches, I moved back to lilo -- itself a feat, due to changes in the boot process that seemed to presume grub and a ram disk. Now I'm back to ~20 second boots from loading to login prompt, down from ~35-45 with grub and ramdisk ). Anyway...apparently zypper didn't install some things or it thought it did and they didn't get fully there (as noted by rpm not seeing them). I suspect zypper and rpm pck lists *should* be the same.... I don't see an option to zypper to syncrhonize it with rpm or for it to verify packages on disk. Anyone know how to get it to do either? thanks... (on the hunt of another obscure config problem... linda -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org