On 04/17/2010 04:03 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/04/16 23:24 (GMT-0500) David C. Rankin composed:
Sure will be happy when we find this gremlin :-)
This thread has been dragging on a very long time.
1-You did try with a virgin login (empty home dir), right?
Oh yes, several I added new users, dcrta, dcrta1, etc.. and I makes no difference. You log in under the new account all files in /var/tmp/kdecache-<user> are created just fine, but still No Menus and No kcontrol modules??
2-No help to login as root?
Nope, root is affected just as any other user, so it isn't a permissions issue.
3-Tried completely removing KDE3 and then reinstalling, both home files and global?
This I haven't done yet, but it is a possibility. I was hoping that we could actually drill-down to find out what the problem is rather than just throwing in the towel and wiping and reinstalling kde3. I say this because it isn't just me. There have been problems with other distros as well. It seems to be x86_64, and it seems to affect those that have both kde3 and kde4 installed and usually starts after a kde4 update. But nobody, that I can tell, has ID'ed the issue yet.
I very recently did a fresh install of 11.1 with KDE3. Then I added a KDE3 repo for 11.2; changed the existing repos.d files to 11.2; 'zypper ref'; 'zypper in zypper libzypp rpm perl-Bootloader openSUSE-release wget aria2 curl mkinitrd udev hal dbus-1'; 'zypper dup'. Kcontrol and everything else I've tried works fine. My other 11.1, 11.2 & 11.3 systems run KDE3 OK too.
That is the funny part. I have 2 laptops both run 11.0 (ATI issue), both have the exact same kde3 install from the same repos and the i586 box works just fine and the x86-64 box has the no menus, no kcontrol module problem. I have even got down to a compare of kde3 installs between the boxes on a file-by-file basis (kdiff3 type comparisons) and all of the ksycoca data, the configurations, the /etc/xdg/menus files, etc... are all the same. I'm pretty sure it is some unique package or library problem, and that is where my debugging skill ends :-( You would think that when kcontrol comes up empty or when then menus are blank that some kind of intelligible error would get thrown giving you a hint at what's wrong, but ... alas ... there aren't any. Moreover, there is no --verbose or --debug option for kcmshell that would shed a little more light on why: [02:53 alchemy:/home/david/tmp] # kcmshell --list kbuildsycoca running... The following modules are available: [03:13 alchemy:/home/david/tmp] # fails, when: [03:13 alchemy:/home/david/tmp] # l /var/tmp/kdecache-david/ <snip> -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 3394111 2010-04-19 02:02 ksycoca -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 4152702 2010-04-18 14:22 ksycoca4 -rw-r--r-- 1 david users 1104 2010-04-18 14:22 ksycoca4stamp -rw-r--r-- 1 david users 1176 2010-04-19 02:02 ksycocastamp are built so nicely at login or with a: 03:15 alchemy:~> kbuildsycoca --noincremental ^^^^^^ kbuildsycoca running... 03:15 alchemy:~> l /var/tmp/kdecache-david/ <snip> -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 3394111 2010-04-19 03:15 ksycoca ^^^^^^ -rw-r--r-- 1 david dcr 4152702 2010-04-18 14:22 ksycoca4 -rw-r--r-- 1 david users 1104 2010-04-18 14:22 ksycoca4stamp -rw-r--r-- 1 david users 1176 2010-04-19 03:15 ksycocastamp ^^^^^^ Note the times over '^^^^^^' above... All the data is there, it just isn't being read into the menus or by kcontrol :-( [Bummer] -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org