Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1523 mails)

[Tony Alfrey <tonyalfrey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Fred A. Miller wrote:
> On 03/10/2010 08:33 PM, Tony Alfrey wrote:
> > Fred A. Miller wrote:
> > > On 03/10/2010 07:34 AM, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
> > > > Hi Fred,
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 19:04 -0600, Fred A. Miller wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, I didn't write it. Sorry you're offended, but I'm not, and as
> > > > > per
> > > > > many others who have varying opinions, we are all entitled to them.
> > > > You are if course entitled to have this opinion. You are not
> > > > entitled to
> > > > voice this opinion on an opensuse list. Please, I don't want to see
> > > > this
> > > > signature ever again on our lists. I find it just too offensive for a
> > > > very sensitive topic. Thanks in advance.
> > > First off, Henne, I'm taking this public because I want everyone to know
> > > what's
> > > going on and why I probably won't be on the lists any longer....NOT my
> > > choice
> > > but yours.
> > I've seen a variety of your (Mr. Miller's) signatures that I've found
> > offensive (some remarks about 'liberals'; I'm one of those "evil"
> > people) but I've said nothing because I'm not a major participant on
> > this list. But the list is not a political forum, it is simply a
> > discussion about software. So adding content that is bound to be
> > controversial is simply counterproductive to the objective (or what I
> > thought was the objective) of the list. There are many other forums
> > where you can freely express your opinions about religion.
> > An argument about kde 3.5 or 4.x seems appropriate. Signatures that
> > amount to hand grenades about inherently subjective topics seem
> > inappropriate for this particular list.
> > My 2 cents (or euro-cents, whatever they call them).
>
>
> Tony, a lot of people use sigs......some I like and some I don't. I
> don't complain about any of them....it's a FREE SPEECH issue....PERIOD.
> There are many on a lot of the lists who I don't agree with. For
> example, Basil and I get into it frequently on the off-topic list, but
> if Henne tried to kick him off, he'd have a BIG ration of grief from me
> and I suspect some others who also don't agree with Basil. I don't like
> censorship for ANYONE, whether I agree with them or not doesn't
> matter.....censorship is WRONG, anywhere at anytime....PERIOD!
>
> Fred

Then since you don't "get it", I'm sure you won't mind if I filter your 
posts, to which are attached your offensive, political, and inflammatory 
sigs which are simply off-topic to the purported objective of the list.
You have the right to stand on any street corner in the US and proclaim 
whatever it is that you believe.  You may create your own website and 
say literally anything that you wish.  You may print your manifesto and 
nail it to any signpost in America as Thomas Paine once did.  But the 
operators of this list have the right to set up whatever rules that they 
wish about the content of the list.  This does not infringe on any 
rights you have to express your views on an infinite number of other 
forums.  But it is also the right of any group to set up their own 
blog/forum/list whatever and set up whatever rules that they wish.  You 
are confusing your right of freedom of speech in a PUBLIC forum with the 
right of a private group to restrict what content is posted on their 
private forum.  If I do not like the rules that the private group has 
set up, I am free not to join and to make my opinions known elsewhere. 
Your right of free speech has not been violated or suppressed.



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Tony Alfrey
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"I'd Rather Be Sailing"
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