Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1581 mails)

[Lubos Lunak <l.lunak@xxxxxxx>]

On Friday 26 of February 2010, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 26 February 2010 17:59, Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 17:42 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > > > > I thought someone wrote some months ago, that the path of gnome was
> > > > > more evolution, instead of the "revolution"-ary path of KDE.
> > > >
> > > > Ah, more meaningless broad and vague generalizations.
> > >
> > > What is meaningless and broad there? Gnome creates 3.0 by taking 2.8
> > > and adding features. KDE creates 4.0 by tossing 3.5.10 out the window
> > > and rewriting everything.
> >
> > As has been stated multiple times - here - by KDE developers - they did
> > *NOT*  "rewriting everything".
> >
> > They re-factored some code, rewrote some code, and sent some code out
> > the sheds.
>
> Not true. Plasma (the KDE desktop and panel) are completely new
> codebases, there is _nothing_ in there carryover from KDE 3.

 The desktop and panel are nowhere near the whole of the KDE Software 
Compilation or the KDE Platform and not even the whole of the KDE Workspaces 
(http://dot.kde.org/2009/11/24/repositioning-kde-brand).

 And, as far as that "_nothing_" is concerned, in fact there is some code in 
Plasma that is reused from KDE3.

> Some KDE apps were carryover although even these need major work to replace
> the Qt3 dependency with Qt4.

 Porting is normal when something lower in the stack changes in an 
incompatible way.

> I don't know where you got your info from,

 From me. I'm repeating it only the third time this week.

> but trust me, KDE 4 is new almost from the ground up,

 As a whole, no.

> Agreed. However, the point about keeping the user side of the UI
> consistent (ie, evolution) seems to be a Gnome priority. Not so with
> KDE,

 So, unlike KDE4 which has new desktop shell implementation, GNOME3 has new 
desktop shell implementation that, unlike KDE4 which changes quite some KDE 
UI aspects, changes quite some GNOME UI aspects, with, unlike with KDE4 where 
the old implementation was eventually abandoned, the old implementation would 
be eventually abandoned, and that makes them completely different.

 Hmm. Could you run that past me once again? Or, after a second thought, 
rather don't. No need to make these long annoying threads even more so.

-- 
 Lubos Lunak
 openSUSE Boosters team, KDE developer
 l.lunak@xxxxxxx , l.lunak@xxxxxxx
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