Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1581 mails)

[Anton Aylward <anton.aylward@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Carlos E. R. said the following on 02/14/2010 07:38 AM:
> > > with opensuse and also with ubuntu on the hard drive, and that is what
> > > it said "  DEFRAG PLEASE"
>
> > Perhaps the message is coming up in the installer?  It could be that it's
> > trying to make space with the existing Windows partitions and can't, and
> > is asking you to use Windows to defrag the Windows partitions so it can
> > resize them for a Linux installation.
>
> Quite probably that's it.

Why would it do that?
I have quite a number of LiveCDs from the LiveCD list and have tried
running them on a number of machines, my own, those of friends and -
shock!!horror - even ones in stores.  I've never met this.

I've tried running them on machines with the hard drive absent as part
of a fault determination process and I can assure you, they don't NEED
the hard drive.

Yes, you can mount the old windows drive - or any other drive or
partition or even a LVM partition - and open a file browser on it.
You CAN.




The poster does not make it clear WHERE in the process the "needs
defrag" comes up, not details of the hardware environment.  he does not
mention which version of Puppy he uses.  He does not describe the
hardware that procedure this problem in adequate detail.

The poster does not make it clear WHERE in the process the "needs
defrag" comes up, not details of the hardware environment.


I note the wikipedia entry for puppy live says that it can run totally
in memory, allowing the CD to be removed.  If the FS is in memory then
the disk does not come into it!

Yes, I realise that puppy, like other LiveCD distributions, has the
ability to SAVE its state to a storage medium on exit.  If that's what's
going on the poster didn't make it clear.

The puppy docs mention that "puppy2" "Saves ramdisk (your working files)
to Flash drive every 30 minutes".  Is the poster running puppy1 or
puppy2?  Is this message because of an initial attempt to save state?
We don't have enough information.
See http://puppylinux.com/development/howpuppyworks.html

You'll also see there that it says:

<quote>
The very first time that you boot the Puppy live-CD on a computer, a
personal storage file named "pup001" is created automatically. This is a
problem if it gets created on, say, /dev/hda1, the "C: drive", but you
want to install Puppy to that partition. Our workaround was a menu with
boot option to not create pup001 and just run in ramdisk.
</quote>

Is this what the poster was running into - without mentioning it?
In which case there are some "solutions"

1.  "Don't Do that!"  take the menu option not to create pup001
2.  "Don't Do That!"  use puppy2 instead of puppy1
3.  "Don't Do that!"  download and burn some other liveCD from
                      http://www.LiveCD.com

Since I have a folder full of LiveCDs and have never met this problem, I
wonder if its simply lack of experience with the varieties of Linux and
lack of experiences with problem diagnostics.  Quite possibly I've run
into something LIKE this and not noticed it because I'm so use to
dealing with Linux and oddities of hardware.

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