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[Jay_Linux <jaylinux53@xxxxxxxxx>]

> > How do you install KDE 3.5.10 in openSUSE 11.2 with KDE 4.3 already 
> > installed ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jay
>
> Jay,
>
>        It's actually real easy.  Go add the following repos:
>
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/
>
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_11.2/
>
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_11.2/
>
>        Then just use yast software management, and choose repositories as 
> your filter.
> Then in the KDE:/KDE3 repo go choose a couple of packages like:
>
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64/kde3-digikam-0.9.6-3.28.x86_64.rpm
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64/kdebase3-3.5.10.1-36.6.x86_64.rpm
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64/kdebase3-workspace-3.5.10.1-36.6.x86_64.rpm
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64/kdelibs3-3.5.10-80.1.x86_64.rpm
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64/kdepim3-3.5.10-68.8.x86_64.rpm
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64/kde3-amarok-1.4.10-39.13.x86_64.rpm
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64/kde3-gwenview-1.4.2-133.3.x86_64.rpm
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/x86_64/kde3-k3b-1.0.5-51.11.x86_64.rpm
>
>        That will be enough to force yast to pull in the rest of kde3 through
> dependencies. Then just browse through the Backports and Community repos and  
>  ..... I just disabled the check an kept a close eye on
> the dependencies.

Thanks for the detailed instructions-will try them out this weekend, I
was not aware of the other KDE 3 repos other then that mentioned at
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE3
(http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.2/)

> You may need to tell yast to Use the kde3 repos as
> the default for the packages.

I don't see this option in Yast (using the Gtk interface in GNOME 2.28
desktop).  ..... (/ Can Yast be made to use the Qt interface in GNOME
?, since I am unable to use KDE 4.3.5 as there is a problem in the
desktop icons (red exclamation mark on desktop icons and apps don't
launch, and thus would prefer to use KDE 3.5.10 if it offers the same
functionality and apps as KDE 4 does /).

-  Another thing is: does one need to make a change in any of the
system files in _oS 11.2_  when KDE 4 & KDE 3 are co-installed, as
mentioned here - (/ didn't have any problem with both KDE's installed
in _oS 11.1_ /)
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4#KDE_3_and_KDE_4

> > KDE 3 and KDE 4
> >
> > The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix, so KDE3 and KDE4 can safely 
> > be installed at the same time.
> >
> > To prevent the accidental starting of KDE4 applications within a KDE3 
> > session add at the top of /opt/kde3/bin/startkde
> >
> > PATH=/opt/kde3/bin:${PATH/:\/opt\/kde3\/bin} export PATH
> >
> > If you are using another window manager then adding this line to the .bashrc 
> > file should also load the correct applications.


>        Initially kde3 was a mess for 11.2, but since then Will and/or Dotan 
> have
> really got it looking great. Fantastic desktop.
>
>        If KDE had any brains at all they would keep kde3 as "KDE Classic" and 
> KDE4 as
> the new KDE. We all remember what happened when Coca Cola tried to drop Coke 
> in
> Favor of "New Coke"....
>
>        In that case it took less that 2 weeks for wise corporate management 
> to respond
> to customer demand and bring Coke back as "Coke Classic".
>
>        The pay-scales are dramatically different, but I know we have kde devs 
> that are
> just as smart as any Coca Cola CEO. Hopefully they will make a like and wise a
> decision and announce the continuation of "KDE Classic"

Similar to Windows XP - Classic vs Standard/Glossy style  or MS Office
with and without the ribbon (no more an option for Office 2007 and
beyond).

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Jay

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