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Re: [opensuse] 11.2 - what was the reasoning behind disabling sshd by default?
- From: "Dominique Leuenberger" <Dominique.Leuenberger@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:26:58 +0100
- Message-id: <4B068B12020000290007C441@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
DenverD wrote:On 11/20/2009 at 12:06, Per Jessen <per@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Per Jessen wrote:
why do I have to explicitly enable ssh during
installation? In previous releases, sshd was always active. To
anyone with more than one box, sshd is a must - to anyone with only
one box, it doesn't do any harm.
makes the default install more secure if ftpd, sshd and all others are
on the other hand, i'm happy they did since i always had to disable
I guess you're a one-PC kind of guy :-)
so, the default install can't possibly make everyone happy...
Yes, that's very true.
What I'd like know is still why sshd was disabled when security has not
become more of an issue than it was in the previous umpteen releases
Interestngly enough, before the sshd deamon might have been started, but the
firewall port 22 was not opened. From previous mails of yours I
understand that you always switch off the firewall and as such might just not
have realized it.
But starting the sshd daemon with the port blocked is useless and the users
requiring access either had to disable the FW or reconfigure it.
Now, the user has to enable ssh if he needs it (which, IIRC, also opens the
port 22 now).
Per, you're a very active user. But do you consider yourself part of the
largest group openSUSE is targeting? Not all settings are right for you, not
all are right for me. Nevertheless, apparently my sister did not have any
troubles with them (she would not even know what she can do with this s-s-h
Additionally, people are always pushing to faster boot times. Disabling the not
obvious needed services to achieve it is certainly not wrong. (Think
about desktop computers, not servers; even there, you will probably get a
higher ratio of desktop:server)
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