It would appear that on Sep 27, Linda Walsh did say:
Duaine & Laura Hechler wrote:
Why should the rest of us be imposed with only one way of posting because of people, that for whatever reason, us the antiquated pine & mutt and won't go gui. Then I suggest you connect that those servers and access the mail via a gui interface. Problem solved !!!!!!!!!!!!
Bingo! That's what I do -- sorta. I run IMAP on my linux server If fetches my email from my ISP so I don't have to wait for things to download.
The problems people face here about having to wait for long downloads of graphics or nonsense like that is because of poor management/poor tech skills.
That's only one of many reasons to go with a text only format. And admittedly one that can be bypassed by someone such as yourself who *HAS* the management & tech skills to run their own server...
Until recently I ran a 10-year old P-III as my linux email, DNS, squid, file and backup server. I ran my best machine as a graphical desktop running windows because I didn't want the headaches dealing with a linux desktop -- I got a bad case of RSI using linux for a desktop for 3 years, so went to windows. It's much more friendly to those with various handicaps. I use *two* mice -- and can switch off so one hand doesn't take the brunt -- though since my right hand got the worst RSI due to pre-dual mouse usage, I favor the left now.
That is a good reason to avoid the point n click style graphic email software. alpine CAN process mouse clicks on links etc. But it never requires the mouse and is configured to be run efficiently with a few easy key strokes that I for one find much easier on my wrists than using *ANY* pointing device...
Those who choose to live in the stone age are the ones I'm talking about who are preventing progress. They need bottom posting because everything scrolls to the bottom when they bring up a message, by default. You have to explicitly invoke a pager to read it the top part. For me it's just the opposite. I have to page to read the bottom part.
I can't agree that it's because of their choice to use cli based software. Incidentally, As far as top/bottom posting goes, I'd agree with you in general. But it's a long ago lost battle. And the netiquette for THIS list recommends against top posting. Though it seams the interleaved posting such as this one generally acceptable to both camps...
My server doesn't run graphics on it. Even my new server only as an 800x600 capable graphics card in it. So I really wouldn't want to try to read email there. It would be insane.
Well I wouldn't recommend doing your email directly from the server either.
Though in my case it has less to do with the graphics card.
Actually I choose alpine specifically because it doesn't clutter my email up
with distracting graphic animations. (I don't really know why it is that if
anything is moving near the text I'm trying to read, I get a migraine...)
I do like running alpine from a gui that can start a browser such as
firefox or opera in case there is a link that I choose to manually select.
I *_LIKE_* the fact that alpine *_never_* automatically launches anything to
opens a link or graphic etc, unless I tell it to.
So while I'm insulted that you automatically think bad things about me just
because I choose to use cli text based software such as alpine, instead of
allowing other people to force point n click methods on me, I do none the
less, wish top posting had won. To me it's about the only good thing that
ever came out of the MS way of doing things. But in tech newsgroups where
many of the people who offer most of the best help say "please don't..."
Well then I try not to.
I'll close with wishing you a nice day, even if you prefer the MS
environment.
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