Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1701 mails)

[Per Inge Oestmoen <pioe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Frans de Boer wrote:

> I do agree with you, Linda, and it is only in technical discussions I
> have seen - sofare - this silly rule of bottom posting. Sometimes I just
> lose interest in an otherwise interesting discussion, just because of
> the pages of over and over digested responses. They cal it an
> netiquette, I call it outdated behavior and a washed of time and
> resources.

For example, how am I supposed to understand what you say when there is
no context? As a newcomer to the discussion, I would have to wade
through the text below in order to understand anything at all.

It seems that those who insist on top posting ar incapable of
understanding that there are others reading the messages beside
themselves, or that they are not interested in making it easier for
newcomers to a discussion to discover what it is about.

Top posting indicates absent-mindedness and lack of concern for others.

Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway






> On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 06:05 -0700, Linda Walsh wrote:
> > Peter Nikolic wrote:
> > > Top posting is exactly what you have just done   ... post your comment 
> > > ABOVE  
> > > which makes it hard to follow the  flow of the article.
> > ---
> > Please don't go on about putting the most recent information first.
> >
> > Those who have read previous emails have no problem following the flow
> > and seeing it repeated ad infinitum/ad nauseum, is just mind numbing.
> >
> > Besides...you are forcing people with disabilities to work harder -- think
> > of blind people having to read through scads of repeated text until they get
> > to the new content.  
> >
> > Learn the essentials of writing.  The important stuff goes first.  Email is
> > not a journal nor a "story", it's a discussion, where I put my answer first, 
> > and you put yours first in response.  I don't need to reread what I just 
> > wrote
> > to you, nor what I just read in the previous email.
> >
> > It's also hard on people who have RSI -- or at least it is for me, as it 
> > requires
> > moving over to the scroll bar to scroll down -- or to do "something" to get 
> > to the
> > real content.  
> >
> > This archaic nonsense by militant hardliners has got to go.  It doesn't make 
> > sense
> > in any professional setting nor personal setting.  It only makes sense if 
> > one is 
> > trying to build a story -- or a record that can be read from start to finish 
> > --
> > but that's not what email is about.  It's about communication -- it wasn't 
> > designed
> > to be a "log book".  
> >
> > If you want logging, look at the previous emails.  With any any half-way 
> > decent mail reader, threads are indented and with a neat addon 
> > (threadvis,threadvis.mozdev.org), you can see my point: conversations are 
> > not linear -- making the whole point of attempting 'journal' ordering 
> > pointless and misleading.  
> >
> > I attached the image of this discussion -- it's spaghetti!  Your post is the 
> > one farthest to the right.  There were two other posts in between the post 
> > you responded to and you.
> > You really should try out T-Bird.   Works just fine on linux.  
> >
> > BTW, I 'bottom' posted, because in this case, it made 'sense'.  I responded 
> > to a short quote of what you said, but when people included pages of 
> > previous text, and add a few lines at the bottom, they should be forced to 
> > listen to elevator music for days on end.
> > linda
> >  

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