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Re: [opensuse] Reply to G T Smith
- From: David Haller <dnh@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 04:59:06 +0200
- Message-id: <20090902025906.GA13638@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hello,
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Peter Nikolic wrote:
[KDE]
Well, actually, it's KDE and/or Gnome heading that way. Guess why I
use neither (KDE not since 1.1.2, Gnome never really). And, if you
look to the past, there's a distinct pattern to KDE usability.
KDE 1: useful with 1.1.2
KDE 2: useful with 2.x.y # x >=2? >=3? haven't followed that much
KDE 3: useful with 3.x.y # x >= 3? probably >= 4 or even 3.5 ...
KDE 4: my guess is it'll be 4.5 or later
Generally: the last minor version before the next major works best by
far (e.g. 1.1.2, IIRC the last 2.x before 3.0 was released, 3.5).
So, yes, you are quite right about KDE, but wrong about Linux, and you
chose your (desktop) poison yourself.
Oh, and don't get me wrong, there are very nice KDE apps, which I even
use. E.g. 1.1.2 kmix and various games on my old box, current k3b and
other stuff on the new box ... Esp. k3b is quite an improvement over
the plethora of somewhat-working-in-special-ways (and all failing in
plenty fundamental, sometimes "creative" ways) mkisofs/cdreoord-
frontend programs that came with KDE1 and 2 (IIRC). I still got a
bunch of those on my old system. Some names, to jog your memory:
kreatecd, kcdwrite, keasycd, kisocd and that's just the KDE1 stuff ;)
So, what you are experiencing, is nothing new. Or unexpected. IMHO.
-dnh, using WindowMaker, which is very configurable, partly via a GUI,
very much via config files and ultimatively via the rather
smallish source code and/or compilation-time defines.
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Peter Nikolic wrote:
[KDE]
the old method worked well whay hide things in silly out of the way
places like that stupid peanut device tucked away in the top corner
and then it is not visable all the time one of the beautys of Linux
was the absolute total configurablatiy of the system it is now
heading towards the windBloWs this is what you got shut up and use it
method
Well, actually, it's KDE and/or Gnome heading that way. Guess why I
use neither (KDE not since 1.1.2, Gnome never really). And, if you
look to the past, there's a distinct pattern to KDE usability.
KDE 1: useful with 1.1.2
KDE 2: useful with 2.x.y # x >=2? >=3? haven't followed that much
KDE 3: useful with 3.x.y # x >= 3? probably >= 4 or even 3.5 ...
KDE 4: my guess is it'll be 4.5 or later
Generally: the last minor version before the next major works best by
far (e.g. 1.1.2, IIRC the last 2.x before 3.0 was released, 3.5).
So, yes, you are quite right about KDE, but wrong about Linux, and you
chose your (desktop) poison yourself.
Oh, and don't get me wrong, there are very nice KDE apps, which I even
use. E.g. 1.1.2 kmix and various games on my old box, current k3b and
other stuff on the new box ... Esp. k3b is quite an improvement over
the plethora of somewhat-working-in-special-ways (and all failing in
plenty fundamental, sometimes "creative" ways) mkisofs/cdreoord-
frontend programs that came with KDE1 and 2 (IIRC). I still got a
bunch of those on my old system. Some names, to jog your memory:
kreatecd, kcdwrite, keasycd, kisocd and that's just the KDE1 stuff ;)
So, what you are experiencing, is nothing new. Or unexpected. IMHO.
-dnh, using WindowMaker, which is very configurable, partly via a GUI,
very much via config files and ultimatively via the rather
smallish source code and/or compilation-time defines.
--
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the
stupidity of your action.
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