I have to reluctantly agree that OpenSuSE is going downhill. Users are forced to do things someone else's way and it is very difficult to change that. With each subsequent version, it seems than more choices are dispensed with. This seems to be more like the Microsoft Way. I am so tired of having to undo the changes that were so thoughtfully made for me without asking or telling. Unfortunately, instead of being helpful, they break things. I am tired of the packaging blunders that destroy data when a package is upgraded and stupid install scripts that freak out when they encounter symlinks or mountpoints somewhere in /usr. KDE4 is not useful for more than looking pretty. Compared to KDE3 it is broken or crippled badly. What use is a keyboard switching applet when it can't change keyboard maps when the keyboard changes? Why? Oh, it was never designed to do that. Huh? Then it's NOT a keyboard SWITCHING applet, is it? Gnome3 is just another useless Pretty Boy. It crashes without fail after 43 minutes or sooner if the system is busy. Function is beauty. Just looking pretty is ugly. Hello? Beagle is still too greedy and Nepomuk wants everything to itself. It takes a long time to kill nepomuk when it's running because the system is so loaded it is very slow to respond. I figured out how to drive a stake through it's evil greedy heart and it's now just an ugly memory. Logitech/Phillips webcams haven't worked properly or reliably since 9.something with the _original_ pwc modules. If they work at all, the system eventually hangs, forcing the manual removal of it's power source. Unfortunately the original author quit, thanks to the kernel space wars, so there's no currently usable version. acpi does not work adequately on non-laptops. Perhaps someone decided that some features are not necessary if there's no battery even when the hardware fully supports acpi. But I do commend whomever for permitting acpi to work at all on non-laptops beginning with 11.0. Even if one is somehow able to specify which kernel to install, the user's choice is ignored and the flavour of the month multiprocessor kernel is always installed even on single processor, single core machines. The default kernel seems to be faster and smaller than the multiprocessor kernel on single processor machines so it makes no sense to force multiprocessor kernels on them. Oh, wait, that's right: users aren't given a choice of kernel at install anymore. Nevermind. Apparently I've merely dumped one pain-in-the-ass for another. It almost makes me regret dumping Mr. Bill and his wunnerful windowz. I wonder if redhat is usable again? == jd If all the world's economists were laid end to end, we wouldn't reach a conclusion. -- William Baumol -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org