Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1696 mails)

[Martin Jedamzik <Martin.Jedamzik@xxxxxxxx>]

Am Freitag 24 Juli 2009 23:39:51 schrieb Ken Schneider - openSUSE:
> Jean-Pierre Abgottspon pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
> > On Thursday 23 July 2009 10:02:10 am Martin Jedamzik wrote:
> > > Am Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2009 01:01:21 schrieb Jean-Pierre Abgottspon:
> > > > Hello Martin,
> > > >
> > > > 1. Did manage to check into the boot/grub/menu.lst
> > > > 2. Did find the acpi option already set to acpi=off
> > > > 3. My vmlinuz version reads: ...vmlinuz 2.6.22.5-31-default...
> > > >
> > > > Well... tks for help. It does not help, or did you mean that I enter
> > > > acpi=force instead of acpi=off ? Bye JPA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday 22 July 2009 10:32:25 pm Martin Jedamzik wrote:
> > > >  Hi Jean-Pierre,
> > > >
> > > > > did you try the acpi=force option in the grub menu?
> > > > > Just apend to the boot options.
> > > > >
> > > > > /boot/grub/menu.lst :
> > > > >
> > > > > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.23-0.1-default root=/dev/disk/by-id .....
> > > > > acpi=off
> > > > >
> > > > > Please tell me if that helps.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers, Martin
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2009 18:50:47 schrieb Jean-Pierre Abgottspon:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Newbie, don't knock !!!
> > > > > > 2. When selecting : 'Turn off computer', all the services seem to go
> > > > > > down in due order until 'turn off sound card' included.
> > > > > > 3. Then nothing... My PC does not get powered off. (I have to pull
> > > > > > the plug to put it to sleep).
> > > > > > 4. I got a HP PC SET A6543/W2216, 4GB CPU, 500 GB HD
> > > > > > 5. Running on openSuse/Novell 10.3. (Higher versions cannot be
> > > > > > mastered by newbies).
> > > > > > 6. Is there a trick to get my PC powered off in a say 'regular' mode
> > > > > > ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tks for help. JPA
> > >
> > > Hello Jean -Pierre,
> > >
> > > aaarrrggghhh :-(
> > >
> > > You're right, it should have been acpi=force.
> > >
> > > Sorry for my mistake.
> > >
> > > Besides, if you want to know more about these options, please read
> > > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> > >
> > > Cheer, Martin
> >
> > Dear Martin,
> >
> > 1. Fine ! I changed it to 'acpi = force'
> > 2. Went thru the log off procedure.
> > 3. Same procedure... aaaaaargh ! I still had to switch off my PC
> > manually. Thus it does not do what I want. Grrrrr !
> >
> > My own comments: first degree
> >
> > A. It seemed to me that the 'menu.list' much resembled like a comment
> > description rather than a file where you modify settings ???
> >
> > My own comments: second degree
> >
> > A. I had happily lived with a 'Compac Pro' PC running on OpenSuse for a
> > few years and came to realise that I was lacking bit power to keep going
> > with pictures, movies downloads, uploads and the like.
> >
> > B. Thus I got myself a new HP PC with 4 G in CPU and 500 G HD in Feb
> > 2009. At the same time I decided to get going and start using my PC for
> > something more than just reading Kmail and browsing with Firefox. Well
> > that's when it started. The first thing I discovered was that apart from
> > a more than remarkable stability (one does not have to go thru
> > 'Alt-Ctrl-Del' every half hour) LINUX was not as magic as it seemed.
> >
> > C. I had joined Suse by sheer luck and the deep conviction that an OS
> > with a delicately elegant organizational tree: Root, Bin, User, Tmp, etc.
> > would keep myself in a sane psycho condition for the rest of my life.
> >
> > D. Not so. Together with my new PC, I bought OpenSuse/Novell 11.1. What a
> > nightmare ! Nothing worked ! I could not even set up my communication
> > line which is the ULTRA simple one: Home-user, internal comm-card, modem,
> > plug to the phone line, provider. Simple. I never managed to come to the
> > point where one declares his activation code. Nothing worked !
> > Fantasmagoric ! There wasn't even a roster to select one's printer from !
> >
> > E. Straightforward tactics, I  reverted to the Suse version 10.3. At the
> > same time I told myself that from now on, in this Suse world, I solve one
> > trouble after the other. Example: 'Turn off computer'. Never had any
> > trouble with it on my earlier Compac. Why tolerate it with my new PC ?
> > See what I went thru:
> >
> > 1. Joined the 'Lizards'.
> > 2. Martin gives me 2 replies on 'turn off computer'.
> > 3. Does not work.
> > 4. Take the basic option: stay with Linux. There is a ray of reason which
> > shines out from Scandinavia ! Linux is still the only option in a virtual
> > mad world.
> > 4.a) reload 'midnight commander' which got somehow rubbished off during
> > the 11.1 episode.
> > 4.b) in a more than hesitant manner replace 'acpi=off' by acpi=force
> > 4.c) in the now famous Chinese manner taking a big jump backwards, rather
> > than forward, that is: getting nowhere.
> > 5. Get up every morning. Go thru my Linux worshiper's routine: race
> > around the house in circles, stop, bend down to the earth and shout:
> > L-I-N-U-X !!! Come to help !!!
> > 6. Sometimes look up the Lizards' mailing list just to see if someday
> > someone unlike you Mart comes up with the correct answer.
> >
> > Tks Mart. You gave it a good try. Didn't help, but it's a good try
> > anyhow. Wingeing can be a good feel sometimes. JPA
>
> Keep in mind that you have to reboot for the change to take effect, not
> merely shutdown. Making the change does not change the running kernel.

Hi Jean-Pierre,

Ken is right here. I'm quite sure that it will work after a reboot.
A short explaination:
ACPI is an abbreviation of "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface". In 
contrast to the old standard APM, the OS has full control over the computers 
powermanagment.
ACPI is initialized quite early in the boot process, you can see quite a few 
messages from it's initialization in /var/log/boot.msg.
If ACPI is set to "off", it is no miracle that the computer does not switch 
off. 
The ACPI option has to be set in the menu.lst (permanently), since it is a 
kernel parameter, not a module option. 
Nevertheless, I strongly suggest to use the 11.1, because there have been many 
improvements over the 10.3.  If there are problems, just post them on the 
list,  I'm quite sure these thinks get sorted out.
Since the list members will ask quite often for configuration data, may I 
recommend this tool?

http://www.novell.com/communities/node/2332/supportconfig-linux

Just unpack the resulting tarball and choose the relevant textfiles for your 
problem. (in our case that would be boot.txt, hardware.txt and messages.txt)

Best regards,

Martin



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