* Larry Stotler <larrystotler@gmail.com> [07-23-09 17:28]:
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Patrick Shanahan<paka@opensuse.org> wrote:
And now it comes with "Personal Settings" :^).
Does this pop up during first login? On which version of KDE4?
No, nor does the menu to shut down your computer. YOU must access it. But one would be hard placed to not recognize it's function and it is in an obvious location in the menu, read: the first page. I am using day-to-day, 11.2M4, and M3 previous.
These same programmers target a community of people who they want to see use their software.
I believe that all but those specifically paid to accomplish a function would fit that discreption.
Further, as an example, until recently Trolltech charged for commercial implementation of Qt, so they weren't completely uncompensated(or some of them anyway) from my understanding.
Thought we were discussing ripping the kde programmers, not a commercial concern which finally donated their efforts, iiuc.
The real issue is that the KDE team felt they needed to do a complete rewrite
You mean that you feel that they feel that ...... Here we go again. It has been exhaustively explained here that the code for KDE3 was approaching it maintenance life's end and becomming unmaintainable.
(supposedly - it's been pointed out that some KDE3 bugs are in KDE4)
That's hard to do with "new" code....
and decided that the new way was it without regard for that fact that they had 10+ years of people who have used KDE.
this is just plain ranting!
Even in an open source project, if you want people to use your code, you have to listen to their input.
And they have been, making major corrections and updates as even you evidence by your next statement.
It's only now with KDE 4.3 that most people are willing to say it's finally the "promised" replacement for KDE3.
Remember that you are *only* hearing the vocal minority, not the silent *majority*.
And, I didn't start with the derogatory references. That started long ago when the lovers of the new way started telling us we were (insert reference here) for not "seeing the light".
But you appear to have much enjoyment in continuing and advanceing them. You don't remember about catching flies with honey? You *must* remember that much of what you want included in the product, many others equally want excluded and vice-versa, ie: beagle. Why not look for solutions that appease both sides rather than just ranting and throwing stones? -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org