Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 14 Jul 2009 14:53:02 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
Disabling Beagle is well covered at
Lets face it beagle is nothing more than an excuse for a poorly organised filing system not on the machines behalf but on the side of the user , IF the user was to have a sensible way of creating storing and sorting his files in the first place there would be no need for the unmitigated resource hog in the first place it just allows people to be lax and untidy
so there is no reason for it to be installed there is on the other hand a need to teach people to organise the machines .
Pete .
Much as I dislike beagle or other desktop indexers myself, This statement is actually unjust. There is really no way possible to really organize files and other content well enough. The filesystem is like a one-key database. Almost useless. It only works for very small amounts of content and/or very narrowly focused usage of that content. Practically every document or other content has multiple facets, but you have to pick only one facet to use to organize by filesystem. Take a trivial example, an mp3 collection. (the same applies to any kind of content, this is just an easy one to use as an example) I organize my music in a typical: /share/tunes/artist/album/01 - track title.ogg Well, that's fine but what about songs where the artist is just one of several artists who has one track on a compilation album? What about artists that have moved through several bands over the years or is in 2 or 3 different bands at the same time now? What about other content related to the same artist like tribute bands or tribute performances or other forms of media like videos or high quality reference flac files that you don't want actually filed with the conveniently playable mp3/ogg files? If you try to draw the possible connections and relevancies between all these files it forms a big rats nest of lines. It can not be expressed in a single key hierarchal structure that a filesystem provides. (symlinks can add another dimention but just make things worse really because that's not remotely conveniently maintainable) So you might say, "ah, but we have dedicated purpose applications to supply exactly those needs of media collections." True, but that app doesn't do anyting but that one job for itself and with many assumptions about what kinds of things you will ever be interested in about the data it manages. If you want to find all references to turtles, in your music, in your recipes, in your paintings and videos, in your novels, in your how-to documents, etc.. you can't do it. As I said, I still don't use these things myself yet, but it is kind of ignorant to say there is no need for indexing and searching because you should just be more organized in how you file things. -- bkw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org