Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (1695 mails)

[Marco Calistri <marco.calistri@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Subject: Re: [opensuse] General Poor quality of Opensuse
From: Clayton <smaug42@xxxxxxxxx>
To: opensuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 14/07/2009 3.01

> >        I don't know what change is needed, but I do know there needs to
> > be a commitment to putting out releases that you can pop in the tray
> > and have work without gigabyte updates required in the first 30 days.
>
> Well.... one problem (as I see it) is that the number of testers on
> the Alpha and Beta runs is... very low.  Once the final release comes
> out, the wider audience thinks that they can now install... they do,
> and then QA problems start to show up... stuff that was missed in the
> Factory cycle.
>
> I'm guilty of this myself.  I will download only some of the Alphas
> (Milestones) along the way... I will usually install them in
> VirtualBox... I will not install them on the "bare metal" on my main
> machine.  I can't afford to have the down time.... and I don't have a
> couple spare machines laying about.  VBox is great, but it only goes
> so far with the real QA testing.
>
> No idea what the right answer is here... this is just an observation.

I am using VBox as well and among others utilizations exactly to testing
11.2 MS3.

I believe this is worthwhile, despite the hardware be a virtual, there
are still valuable tests to be ran, especially the ones not hardware
related, as the case of a broken application, which refuses to start as
for example I have noticed for FileZilla or even for X-screensaver first
version on MS1.

So to reduce the "gigabytes updates" THEN, is better to warn for any
bugs BEFORE that the stable version be released.

BR,

Marco
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