On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Andreas Jaeger
Please take into account that 11.2 Milestones are indeed Alphas and not releases. These milestones have only minimal testing.
Then why are they called Milestones? Evidently it's become confusing for some. I just assumed it was Alpha 1-4 and Beta 5-8, but never really say any answer to that one.
There's work going on for beagle to not enable it by default.
Or how about just asking: Would you like to turn on Desktop Search tools like Beagle or Stringi? during the install?
I doubt that we're the first ones to release everything. We integrate early in factory to get early testing - and that's the purpose of the Milestones. With early testing - and bugreporting, - we will also do early fixing. Also problems can be reported in time to the upstream authors so that they help with fixes. This all ensures that the final release is stable. And once we have the final release, we might be the last ones to release - and to release a stable product.
The saving grace of 11.0 was that KDE3 was still supported. Distros like Fedora only released KDE4 in Core9, which was not what the KDE devs wanted. However, to many of us, KDE4 is still incomplete. Personally, I just wish that there was an easy way to turn off all the bling at first start up(which was why I asked that KPersonalizer be ported. Not everyone wants it, or has the hardware for it). My Thinkpad 390X with a p3/500 and a Neomagic 2.5MB video chip won't be able to do a lot of bling anyway. But it still works, plays movies, has built in wireless(now) and a good battery, and broswes the web just fine, so as long as it works, I see no reason to replace it.
You're more than welcome to report bugs or fix issues, we have opened factory so that everybody can participate,
And a lot of us have, and sometimes they get ignored or marked Won't Fix, which gets discouraging. The fact that openSUSE was even created and that we as users have input is a good thing, and it's even better that more and more is opened up. You and Olaf and others of the team have always been level headed and helpful. Some haven't tho, but that's life. While I've become discouraged with the direction of openSUSE in some ways I still use it(albiet 11.0/KDE3) and will wait and see what happens in the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org