After finding some version mismatches in my 10.3 installation, and not having heard any reasonable-sounding complaints against kde 4.1 recently, I upgraded to 11.1 with kde 4.1.3 a couple of weeks ago. I just ran a successful online update of all packages last night. Since upgrading, I've been unable to connect to any wifi using my primary (suse) desktop -- on my recent trip to Italy, I had to use my windows xp pro installation (this is a dual-boot laptop). The process appears to go normally until it gets to "getting ip address" (I don't have the message in front of me; I'm doing this over my ethernet line), then hangs. The knetworkmanager ball stays gray, saying wireless is disconnected. It shows several essid's, among them the ones that I need. Nothing helps. Possibly useful information: john@embelex:~> dmesg | grep iwl john@embelex:~> dmesg | grep Net john@embelex:~> dmesg | grep net john@embelex:~> dmesg | grep 3945 (above is after ~14hrs on ethernet -- does dmesg delete old messages?) embelex:/var/run/NetworkManager # ls embelex:/var/run/NetworkManager # ps -e | grep iwl 1515 ? 00:00:01 iwl3945/0 1522 ? 00:00:00 iwl3945 7176 ? 00:00:00 iwl3945/1 embelex:/var/run/NetworkManager # ps -e | grep Net 6399 ? 00:00:28 NetworkManager embelex:/var/run/NetworkManager # ps -e | grep net 3222 ? 00:00:00 xinetd 6526 pts/1 00:18:52 knetworkmanager All this looks correct to my unsophisticated eye. Help? John Perry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org