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Re: [opensuse] Re: new 'man' behavior: "ask questions instead of answer": HOWTO REVERT?
- From: "John E. Perry" <j.e.perry@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 20:40:48 -0400
- Message-id: <4A1C8C10.1050409@xxxxxxx>
D. McGarrett wrote:
...so, Doug, let me deflect the flames from you by attracting them to
myself :-).
I've used unix for decades, and I've always despised the stupid man
paradigm. Basically, to find anything in man, you have to know it
already, and even apropos doesn't help a lot. A curses implementation
would have helped, but it was never developed, as far as I know.
Gnu info promised a better environment, but it was sabotaged by the
keyboard-only mindset of its writers, so it's not much of an improvement.
For an example of _good_ man pages written by old-line experts who
weren't chained to obsolete paradigms, take a look the documentation at
www.tcl.tk. This is a beautiful example of what modern paradigms can do
with a few simple mouse clicks (really, now, does anyone here _not_ have
a mouse?). Html is _so_ much better a way to find your needed
information, even if you already know it all. If you don't, man and
info are more hindrances than helps.
So now, you're safe, Doug :-).
John Perry
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Linda Walsh wrote:
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:OS's contributors take a more friendly view of their possible users, and
...
make the system more user-friendly. I hate to say, more Windows-like, but
at least more DOS/CPM like. Well, flame me, I suppose, but I think this
would be useful.
...so, Doug, let me deflect the flames from you by attracting them to
myself :-).
I've used unix for decades, and I've always despised the stupid man
paradigm. Basically, to find anything in man, you have to know it
already, and even apropos doesn't help a lot. A curses implementation
would have helped, but it was never developed, as far as I know.
Gnu info promised a better environment, but it was sabotaged by the
keyboard-only mindset of its writers, so it's not much of an improvement.
For an example of _good_ man pages written by old-line experts who
weren't chained to obsolete paradigms, take a look the documentation at
www.tcl.tk. This is a beautiful example of what modern paradigms can do
with a few simple mouse clicks (really, now, does anyone here _not_ have
a mouse?). Html is _so_ much better a way to find your needed
information, even if you already know it all. If you don't, man and
info are more hindrances than helps.
So now, you're safe, Doug :-).
John Perry
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