Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2008 mails)

["ne..." <guhvies@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 23:46, Richard <ricreig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon April 13 2009 2:06:43 pm ne... wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 17:53, Dan Goodman <Dan.Goodman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > [SNIP]
> >
> > > And no, Mr. Asiago of the KDE team, although I had been a member of the
> > His name is Aaron Seigo (aseigo). Just thought I'd help you out there.
> >
> > ne...
> > A happy user of oS11 with KDE 4.2.2 and who does not update from OBS.
>
> I, for one, am *very* happy that you are happy with and use KDE 4.2.2 
> sucessfully.  I, however am not
> and resent it being forced on me.
Thanks, but I do not see how it is being forced on you. I've taken the
liberty of reformat
the very long lines of your post.

> I resent the mentality that KDE devs can force me to forego updating my 
> current DISTRO without
> losing the functionalities of the software I want to use including my choice 
> of 3.5.x version of KDE.
If by KDE dev you mean the oS devs working on KDE, then your choice is
to help maintain KDE3
in OBS. The oS devs have made their choice, at least the option still
remains for you to get KDE3.

> I will continue to evaluate 4.x+, but I resent being told that I *have* to 
> use it or lose what I already
> have and sucessfully use and like and especially resent that 
> programs/packages that use 3.5.x often
> are incompatible with 4.x and may not be upgradeable because *their* devs 
> don't have the time to
> make the radical changes required by KDE 4.x. They might have 'day jobs' too.
Then you are going to ave to step up and start compiling stuff
yourself. Instead of being reactive,
you are going to have to be proactive.

> I resent being unable to upgrade from 11.0 or 11.1 to 11.2+ which fixes bugs 
> in the earlier kernels,
> drivers, utilities, etc. because if I do, I lose too much else. I shouldn't 
> have to switch my desktop to
> Gnome or other DE to be able to use my current choice of DE.
Since KDE3 will be in OBS for oS11.2 if the community that needs it
steps up, you should be able
to do a base install and add KDE later on. That is one choice you
have. If the community does not
step up to maintain KDE3, you can always download the tarbols and then
compile and install them.

<peptalk>
Those wanting KDE3 for oS11.2 and newer may not like the choices they
are being given. However,
the way things stand, it looks you are going to have to take a
proactive stance, step up and help
maintain KDE3 in OBS if you want to have it. The oS devs have made
their position clear, now it is
up to the community to do something positive for themselves.
</peptalk>

ne...
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