On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 00:51 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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On Monday, 2009-02-02 at 22:20 +0100, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
Still, asking me which client I use pinpoints the whole issue. The list should not leave it up to the vagaries of e-mail clients and people's willingness to constantly fiddle with them, when an alternative is that the source of the e-mails set things right.
Nop. The list leaves you the freedom of:
- reply to the original poster
- reply to all
- reply to the list
A proper mail client should make any of the three options easy, and I believe evolution has such a setting.
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In fact, I have just set up evolution for a new user on my system, sent there a copy of this very thread, and tried. If you hit "ctrl-L" evolution opens a reply to the list in the proper manner, so I don't know why you are complaining.
Ctrl-L in evolution openSUSE 11.1 does nothing. At least, not out of the box. I don't want/need a tutorial here. Wanting to provide one misses my whole point. I really wonder why the basic complaint that is being made is not understood. I know damned well that there is a button in Evolution to (1) reply to the poster and not the list [Reply], or (2) reply to the list and cc the poster [ReplyToAll]. My point is that for every single other e-mail or list I reply to, I need only press [Reply] to get the mail where it should go. In the case of the list, it is, well, to the list that I expect replies to want to go to by default. Only for SUSE must I press a different key. I have been doing this for years and am still alive. I can handle it. I am a techy sort of guy. It is not an ability issue. It is a question of why this list insists on a default that decreases the chance that responses go to the list and increases the chance that they only go to the original poster. Raise you hands: how many have accidentally pressed a button to answer a message, and it only went to the list, and not the poster. I suspect there will be very few, if any, posters. Now, raise your hands if you answered, but it accidentally only went to the poster and not the list. I expect there will be many more hands raised. Even if you raised your hand the first time, the message you sent was seen by all, including the original poster who, one assumes subscribes to the list.
Evolution even has a context menu for mailing lists, offering subscribe, unsubscribe, contact the owner... etc. All automatically!
Back to my point: if the list is set up correct, why are you suggesting I need to fiddle with my mail settings to get a simple reply to go to the list? I agree that this thread is dead. I really do have a job to get back to. It has been fun. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 8-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- "On two occasions I have been asked (by members of Parliament!), 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage 1791-1871) English computer pioneer, philosopher And remember: It is RSofT and there is always something under construction. It is like talking about a large city with all construction finished. Not impossible, but very unlikely. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org