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Re: [opensuse] Should I go 64-bit?
- From: "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:35:30 -0600
- Message-id: <49852692.9030709@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Per Jessen wrote:
I have boxes of all flavors 32bit - 64bit. I have 1 32-bit laptop and 1
64-laptop. 4 32-bit servers and 2 64-bit servers and several other desktops. I
guess it has been a little over a year since building my first 64-bit server
(opteron based) on 10.3. My primary server at work is still 32-bit while at
home I have the 64-bit box. There isn't enough of a difference to compel me to
lug the 64-bit box to work and replace the 32-bit box.
The improvements are not dramatic, but good, on server throughput,
etc.. Large
compiles seem to go faster, though I haven't timed the difference. By far, my
server at work is the busiest, but even in that regard, it is hardly even
stressed at the busiest of times with the 13 clients it has plus the mail and
web load on it.
As mentioned already in this thread, gimp on my 64-bit laptop seems
faster,
but gimp on my old p4 3.3GHz 32-bit laptop is plenty fast as well.
I think the thrust of the thread started as a "should I", or "shouldn't
I"
update from 32-bit on my 64-bit box. To me the answer is that there are no
drawbacks to running the 64-bit release on your 64-bit hardware. openSuSE
supports both equally and so do 3rd party drivers, etc. (In a majority of cases
there isn't any difference) On the plus side, you will see good performance
increases in the instances that 64-bit addressing makes a difference.
If all my hardware was 64-bit, I'd be running the 64-bit release on all
of it.
With that said, I am equally happy with my 32-bit boxes and see no compelling
reason to run out and change hardware.
The bottom line for me is that I have seen (zero) drawbacks from the
64-bit
systems and I have seen good benefits where it makes a difference. I don't
consider that some packages are 5% or so larger to support the 64-bit
addressing -- that's just the reality of the additional code needed to make use
of the additional address space.
(OK, I did (past tense) see a difference with java for web browsing not having
a 64-bit plugin, but sun has since rectified that problem)
Match the OS to your hardware.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com
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Carl Hartung wrote:
I migrated a number of servers to 64bit about 12 months ago, and thenAre you saying I should now downgrade my 11.1 installation to the
migrated them back to 32bit some 9-10 months later. These servers
were all the same - AMD 64bit, 2Gb RAM.
My thinking was "64 has to be better than 32", if nothing else then
because it's 64-bit OS/software on a 64-bit CPU. Well, I was wrong.
Because of the increase in memory-usage with 64-bit openSUSE, each
server ended upn being able to handle less load running 64bit than
32bit.
32-bit version? I waited *forever* to upgrade my increasingly cranky
previous system and when I took the plunge, I installed the 'native'
64-bit flavor!
No, whether you're better off with 32bit or 64bit depends entirely on
your system and your software. A heavily loaded database server with
32Gb of memory will no doubt be better off with a 64bit OS and apps.
My servers only have 2Gb memory each, and because I'm running several
hundred processes on each server, I ended up having room for less when
everything was 64bit.
I have boxes of all flavors 32bit - 64bit. I have 1 32-bit laptop and 1
64-laptop. 4 32-bit servers and 2 64-bit servers and several other desktops. I
guess it has been a little over a year since building my first 64-bit server
(opteron based) on 10.3. My primary server at work is still 32-bit while at
home I have the 64-bit box. There isn't enough of a difference to compel me to
lug the 64-bit box to work and replace the 32-bit box.
The improvements are not dramatic, but good, on server throughput,
etc.. Large
compiles seem to go faster, though I haven't timed the difference. By far, my
server at work is the busiest, but even in that regard, it is hardly even
stressed at the busiest of times with the 13 clients it has plus the mail and
web load on it.
As mentioned already in this thread, gimp on my 64-bit laptop seems
faster,
but gimp on my old p4 3.3GHz 32-bit laptop is plenty fast as well.
I think the thrust of the thread started as a "should I", or "shouldn't
I"
update from 32-bit on my 64-bit box. To me the answer is that there are no
drawbacks to running the 64-bit release on your 64-bit hardware. openSuSE
supports both equally and so do 3rd party drivers, etc. (In a majority of cases
there isn't any difference) On the plus side, you will see good performance
increases in the instances that 64-bit addressing makes a difference.
If all my hardware was 64-bit, I'd be running the 64-bit release on all
of it.
With that said, I am equally happy with my 32-bit boxes and see no compelling
reason to run out and change hardware.
The bottom line for me is that I have seen (zero) drawbacks from the
64-bit
systems and I have seen good benefits where it makes a difference. I don't
consider that some packages are 5% or so larger to support the 64-bit
addressing -- that's just the reality of the additional code needed to make use
of the additional address space.
(OK, I did (past tense) see a difference with java for web browsing not having
a 64-bit plugin, but sun has since rectified that problem)
Match the OS to your hardware.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
Facsimile: (936) 715-9339
www.rankinlawfirm.com
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