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Re: [opensuse] missing in kde4?
- From: Will Stephenson <wstephenson@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:48:43 +0100
- Message-id: <200812211948.43434.wstephenson@xxxxxxx>
On Saturday 20 December 2008 18:46:35 Bob Williams wrote:
If you're migrating from KDE 4.0 on 11.0, you'll have some Icon widgets on the
desktop on the default desktop background left over. The reason is, in KDE
4.0 we tried to do icons-on-the-desktop using an Icon widget/plasmoid per file
in ~/Desktop, which turned out to be a bad idea (they just don't behave like a
set of files wrt to selection, moving, grouping, context menus). So Folder
View was implemented. I'm not sure what's going on with the disappearing
icons, but you could try removing these (using the interface that appears on
hover).
Not really, we deliberately separated these folders so that KDE 3 can be used
undisturbed by KDE 4. Some other distros are forcing KDE 4 only, because
apps' config files in .kde have been upgraded by running the KDE 4 version of
the app.
Don't do that!
I'd move or remove ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma*rc before logging into KDE 4,
then you'll get the default 4.1 desktop with Folder View applet, then i
*expect* switching to Folder View as desktop will work without crashing.
HTH
Will
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OK. I've installed the debuginfo packages, as you suggest. I tried to
provoke the plasma crash again, so that more informative logs would be
generated, but this time it didn't complain. It didn't do what was
requested, either. The desktop initially cleared to a plain blue background
with an empty Desktop folder. The desktop icons then appeared as a neat row
of widgety things at top left, and the desktop turned black at the same
time. One by one the icons/widgets disappeared, then the original KDE4
desktop reappeared, with the original Desktop Folder, which repopulated
itself with the icons from /home/<user>/Desktop. Back to square one :(
If you're migrating from KDE 4.0 on 11.0, you'll have some Icon widgets on the
desktop on the default desktop background left over. The reason is, in KDE
4.0 we tried to do icons-on-the-desktop using an Icon widget/plasmoid per file
in ~/Desktop, which turned out to be a bad idea (they just don't behave like a
set of files wrt to selection, moving, grouping, context menus). So Folder
View was implemented. I'm not sure what's going on with the disappearing
icons, but you could try removing these (using the interface that appears on
hover).
Could this behaviour have anything to do with the fact that I've been
running KDE3.5 alongside KDE4, trying them both in different sessions? IOW
I have both a ~/.kde and a ~/.kde4 folder.
Not really, we deliberately separated these folders so that KDE 3 can be used
undisturbed by KDE 4. Some other distros are forcing KDE 4 only, because
apps' config files in .kde have been upgraded by running the KDE 4 version of
the app.
When my new machine arrives, I shall do a clean install of 11.1 & KDE4.1. I
suspect it would be a good idea to remove ~/.kde before remounting /home.
Don't do that!
I'd move or remove ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma*rc before logging into KDE 4,
then you'll get the default 4.1 desktop with Folder View applet, then i
*expect* switching to Folder View as desktop will work without crashing.
HTH
Will
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