Mailinglist Archive: opensuse (2740 mails)

["John E. Perry" <j.e.perry@xxxxxxx>]

Larry Stotler wrote:
> ...
>
> No, we want to see KDE4 work as advertised which it still has a ways
> to go.  To this point, I have yet to see any compelling reason for
> myself to switch to KDE4.  There are a lot who agree and some who
> disagree and fell KDE4 is ready.  It's called a difference of opinion.
>  So, since our view differs from yours, I guess that makes us wrong?

Larry, if you'll look back in the archives, you'll see that I have
specifically praised your particular efforts in this regard.  The above
comment was specifically made in regard to people who have persisted in
complaining without making the least effort either to contribute, or to
understand what is going on.

> > Which, again, has been advised repeatedly, and steadfastly ignored.  Why
> > feed the trolls any more?
>
> And this is where the problems come in.  I don't call people names and
> act childish.  However, I've been called names, and I honestly don't

Well, if you feel I've been lumping you in with the mindless naysayers
in spite of my posts, I don't know how to make you happy.  Are you maybe
being hypersensitive?

> appreciate it.  What gives you the right to criticize me, who has
> supported SuSE for almost 10 years by paying $$ for it over the years
> and who now tries to give back as being a part of this community?
> This is a huge change from how SuSE was developed just a few years
> ago.  Everyone now has a voice.  If we don't use it, then we get
> whatever is decided for us.  It's like those who don't vote.  IMO,
> they don't deserve to bitch about the outcome.

As one of those who doesn't contribute, but also doesn't snipe at the
developers, I might take offense at what you're saying here.  Do you
think that would be right?

Yes, I've paid for suse.  Yes, I've stuck with 3.5.9.  Yes I
occasionally check in to my kde4 account (thanks for that tip, Carlos),
and when kde4 and I get to the point that I can use it pretty easily,
I'll switch over completely.

In the meantime, I'll keep my mouth shut (figuratively) except to defend
the people who are truly contributing.

John Perry
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